SpeedMonkeyRacing

http://www.stage2perf.com/Integra/smoke.avi

this was the first run today @ DRT. Didn't see much smoke but the ones after were DISASTER

Oh well..new oem headgasket from Golden Eagle coming friday..hopefully it'll do my block good

Jeff-

MikeMAN

yuppers, OEM honda ownz!!

TurboDANDEE

my computer is too slow for vids... what exatcly happened? motor and bore? cause im also using a cometic gasket and its leaking on the corner and i smell burning oil. how did it blow?

earl

Not your head gasket, either valve cover gasket, vtec seal or distributor seal

SpeedMonkeyRacing

let's see...

the engine was rebuild....as soon as we crank the car...there were a little bit of blowby (strange). Then...the car becomes a smoke machine (lots of air in the back). And the last few runs we did before we call it the day.....radiator fluid was rushed back to the radiator bottle...

i guess GE sleeves really don't like cometic huh?

Jeff-

Prelude Vtec 23

Did GE o-ring your block? Or was it decked flat. Also which Cometic gasket did you use, was it the High Performance or the standard?

earl

I clicked on your video but didn't see any smoke?
There is a lot more to this story than you are saying. Why was the engine rebuilt in the first place. Was it a new sleeve install. Was it stepped or o-ring'd. The HP design does not work with o-rings and probably not a stepped deck either. You need to disclose all the info for anyone here to give you some help.

b18bturbo

its probably not the gasket but probbaly the step deck that is causing that.. i am sure of it .

SpeedMonkeyRacing

look carefully by the cam gears...you'll see some smoke. That was just the beginning. Anyway..here's what happened

I rebuild the motor cuz I blew my first motor (@ 20k miles). I decide rather than just drop in new piston/rods..i might as well go all out. So...i purchased a GE sleeved b18c1 block which was bored to 83.5mm from Eric Hsu @ XS Engineering. Got the head off a friend of mine who used it briefly on his 10 sec hatch. Anyway, the block was o-ringed and looks like the Godzilla sleeves (or some weird sleeve according to Eric Hsu). So...in addition to that..i got me JE pistons, eagle rods, and since my weird bore (83.5mm), I had no choice but to get cometic headgasket (off race engineering). According to my rebuilder..it was torqued down properly within spec. Now..after we solved STUPID PROBLEMS @ DRT which was like million of them (forgot putting back hoses, fuel pump backwards..etc). We finally got the car running..

As soon as we start the car...we noticed that there were soem blow-by (which according to Ralphy is okay because all built motors have a little blow-by). But as soon as he get on it...car becomes a smoke machine. As first we thought it was just leftover oil in the exhaust from way back when I blew my motor cuz the smoke did get smaller and smaller. Anyway, after like the 11th run...the radiator fluid decide to push back to the radaitor fluid bottle when ever the car is in boost. Temp remained good until like the 15th run (went from 187 to about 197 before we called it the day). Ralphy said it's most likely cause by the headgasket cuz comestic comes with o-ring and i shouldn't use o-ring gasket when my block is already o-ringed.

Now....I placed an order on the OEM headgasket from GE and hoping that it will solve the problem. I dunno what else I'll do if I can't get the damn thing solved

Jeff-

b18bturbo

if its oringed then its the cometic gasket you are using shouldnt use cometic on oring block on stock step deck you can as long as the surface is true across the board.

SpeedMonkeyRacing

so it is the headgasket eh? great..stupid cometic

Jeff-

b18bturbo

yup cometic is the cause of the oring issues its know problem.... you can make it work though butits not worth it

SpeedMonkeyRacing

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat. 85 bucks down to the drain $120 oem gasket from GE i come

Jeff-

SIXTYdashONE

You got off easy; Rather then saying $3500 down the drain for your built motor. It comes with the teritory man.. good luck

SpeedMonkeyRacing

yeah...and it cost more than $3500 for the whole block

Jeff-

Bnjmn

So what is the recommended head gasket for a high boost/step deck setup?
Will OEM be alright in the 25psi range?

Thanks
Ben

Prelude Vtec 23

My block was o-ringed by GE and when I spoke with Cometic they said I could use their HP gasket. But after speaking with several people on Honda-tech they said that it wouldnt work, and after your experience I see thats true. GE said that the Cometic HP gasket wont work but that the standard Cometic one will. Does anyone know if I will have any issues with this combination?

b18bturbo

std cometic with out the fire ring will be fine. with the fire ring you have issues

Prelude Vtec 23

The standard cometic doesnt come with it right? Only the HP has it, if I am not mistaken.

b18bturbo

Yup you are 100% correct.

h0mesk1let

Just to save your self some possible headaches, go ahead and check that the sleeves are all in spec....just to be sure. You should be able to do a makeshift job just with a straight edge and feeler gauge.

4dGSR at work

you just stole ten seconds of my life

thanks jeff!!!!


just playing what hp's what ft/lb.s at what rpm did the max boost hit

spill the beans!!!!

4dGSR at work

jeff..... you blew a gasket... my bad!!!
and people say oem honda rulez????
buy a VW!!!!

SpeedMonkeyRacing

@ around 9~10psi..we hit 269/230 torque. Then radiator fluid keeps on going back to the bottle

We'll see what happens on friday when we put the new headgasket on

VW? Nah..I was thinking about selling the damn teg and get me a Supra or something

Jeff-

Flamenco-T

it's easy and simple, O-ringed block will not work with O-ring headgasket...
I have GE o-ringed block, 81.5mm bore and I used OEM headgasket, held up perfectly fine for 12K miles as of now..(*knock on wood*)

Corporal Jeff: I was under the understanding it's not a good idead to o-ringed a block with 82mm or bigger bore...