Cleaning up dirty turbo manifolds/what surface finish
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Cleaning up dirty turbo manifolds/what surface finish
So I'm trying to clean up 2 turbo manifolds, both are 16g 304 stainless. a Trust sr20 manifold and an HKS T51R v-band manifold (both look almost identical too) They both have less than 500 miles but are just dirty, looks like from oil leaks and things of that nature.
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you can see in that last picture the ISIS bottom mount I just got done cleaning up. I gave it a brushed finish and I really dig it
I started with scotch brite pads just to see how bad it was and a few areas like runner #1, the wastegate tubes and the back of the manifolds werent too bad. any shiny spot you see is where i hit it with the pad then followed with 2000 grit just to see what the overall surface finish was like. I'm thinking I need to be aggressive, possibly a brass wheel followed by 400-800-1000-2000 to get it nice and polished, or would I be better off with a brushed finish? Im not sure if im going to ceramic coat these yet or leave them natural.. If I leave them natural i'd like a finish that best shows the heat coloring.
Trust manifold
HKS manifold
you can see in that last picture the ISIS bottom mount I just got done cleaning up. I gave it a brushed finish and I really dig it
I started with scotch brite pads just to see how bad it was and a few areas like runner #1, the wastegate tubes and the back of the manifolds werent too bad. any shiny spot you see is where i hit it with the pad then followed with 2000 grit just to see what the overall surface finish was like. I'm thinking I need to be aggressive, possibly a brass wheel followed by 400-800-1000-2000 to get it nice and polished, or would I be better off with a brushed finish? Im not sure if im going to ceramic coat these yet or leave them natural.. If I leave them natural i'd like a finish that best shows the heat coloring.
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Re: Cleaning up dirty turbo manifolds/what surface finish
and yes I know my garage is dirty, in the middle of packing up to move so its a nightmare
but don't they look almost identical? Im starting to think Trust/Greddy and HKS farmed out their fabrication
but don't they look almost identical? Im starting to think Trust/Greddy and HKS farmed out their fabrication
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both are made in china.
but have them shipped to japan before shipping elsewhere, so they can be labeled as Japan...
customs loopholes that make the public think that hks/trust/greddy handmakes any mass produced parts in Japan.
but have them shipped to japan before shipping elsewhere, so they can be labeled as Japan...
customs loopholes that make the public think that hks/trust/greddy handmakes any mass produced parts in Japan.
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I always just used long strips of scotch brite and rubbed in a back and forth motion. seemed to always work great for me.
if you want to leave them natural looking then want that nice golden brown color, an old trick we used to do on alot of our manifolds was install it, get the manifold nice and hot then spray Windex liberally on everything area you can see. It will boil off very quickly, but if you arent satisfied with the coverage or color, simply go for another drive, get the manifold hot and repeat the steps. always made the piping end welds look incredible.
if you want to leave them natural looking then want that nice golden brown color, an old trick we used to do on alot of our manifolds was install it, get the manifold nice and hot then spray Windex liberally on everything area you can see. It will boil off very quickly, but if you arent satisfied with the coverage or color, simply go for another drive, get the manifold hot and repeat the steps. always made the piping end welds look incredible.
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i've already gone through 2 full packs of scotch brite.. which is why i said i might need to get more aggressive with it
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update: so i finally found my brass wire wheel... I've accomplished more in 10 minutes than I did with hours of scotch brite pads... I think this will work for all but the tightest spots.
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whatever grit you finish with go over it with 00 steel wool. that will give it a mirror finish. it also works well for taking off rust spots.
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yea ive got 00 and 2k grit, this took out most of the surface imperfections as well, not just the staining
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I'm just sick and tired of people thinking that some of these items made in different countries are part of some "conspiracy". If that's the case, you shouldn't wear the pants you have on because it too wasn't made in the same in-house facility as where their marketing is located. Off-site manufacturing is all part of business.. not a conspiracy.
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Actually.. Taiwan, and that was the later models that did that.. Not "China". It all depends upon the standard that HKS gives the manufacturer. They still make most of their manifolds and such in-house. I was at the HKS HQ at the last Tokyo Auto Salon tour in 2010. They still make a lot of their own stuff, but it was mainly exhaust manifolds, wastegates and special projects.
I'm just sick and tired of people thinking that some of these items made in different countries are part of some "conspiracy". If that's the case, you shouldn't wear the pants you have on because it too wasn't made in the same in-house facility as where their marketing is located. Off-site manufacturing is all part of business.. not a conspiracy.
I'm just sick and tired of people thinking that some of these items made in different countries are part of some "conspiracy". If that's the case, you shouldn't wear the pants you have on because it too wasn't made in the same in-house facility as where their marketing is located. Off-site manufacturing is all part of business.. not a conspiracy.
I didn't mention China/ROC being a bad thing. as long as they have a good control of standards, humans are humans. I was just stating a fact.
honhai/foxconn couldn't make the iphone what it was on there own of course, but apple doesn't lie about the origins of products either..
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has anyone ever really met this person? and what happened to your fake english accent/err "business partner"?
I didn't mention China/ROC being a bad thing. as long as they have a good control of standards, humans are humans. I was just stating a fact.
honhai/foxconn couldn't make the iphone what it was on there own of course, but apple doesn't lie about the origins of products either..
I didn't mention China/ROC being a bad thing. as long as they have a good control of standards, humans are humans. I was just stating a fact.
honhai/foxconn couldn't make the iphone what it was on there own of course, but apple doesn't lie about the origins of products either..
And my partner is Australian.. not British.. Geography class anyone?
In all 4 of your posts on this forum, at least 1 were attacks on other people without any merit. Especially those that seem to help others and are the most of a threat to you, for whatever reason it may be.
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Just leave it alone.. No one will bother you if you don't bother them.. leave it at that, ok?
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You can media blast a cast manifold without issue as they don't have smooth surfaces to begin with. A tubular 16g manifold you can only hit them with walnut shells or corn husk... Glass maybe. You don't want to etch the surface.
And I've known mac for almost 7 years... He's never led me wrong and is one of the most knowledgeable people in this game.
And I've known mac for almost 7 years... He's never led me wrong and is one of the most knowledgeable people in this game.
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I put in about 30 minutes and its looking promising. Only problem is flying pieces of wire wheel.. I found 3 or 4 pieces in hair when i laid down.
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You can media blast a cast manifold without issue as they don't have smooth surfaces to begin with. A tubular 16g manifold you can only hit them with walnut shells or corn husk... Glass maybe. You don't want to etch the surface.
And I've known mac for almost 7 years... He's never led me wrong and is one of the most knowledgeable people in this game.
And I've known mac for almost 7 years... He's never led me wrong and is one of the most knowledgeable people in this game.
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I might end up wrapping them but I want them clean when I do it. I've seen what happens when you wrap something with this kind of surface contamination, it basically bakes it into the tubing.
i might end up selling them, although I have 5 sr20s in my garage right now that I need to build, so I might end up running them. if I ceramic coat, wrap, or just polish I want them clean... I'm **** retentive that way.
TheShodan can tell you just how bad I am about that. I've hand polished compressor wheels when they get dirty, right now my civic and s13 are rolling chassis and i still wash and wax them lol.
I might end up having them both walnut shell blasted, the greddy manifold is proving harder to clean than the HKS, not sure why... It seems like some of the mandrel bends stretched the tubing so its grain kinda shows.
i might end up selling them, although I have 5 sr20s in my garage right now that I need to build, so I might end up running them. if I ceramic coat, wrap, or just polish I want them clean... I'm **** retentive that way.
TheShodan can tell you just how bad I am about that. I've hand polished compressor wheels when they get dirty, right now my civic and s13 are rolling chassis and i still wash and wax them lol.
I might end up having them both walnut shell blasted, the greddy manifold is proving harder to clean than the HKS, not sure why... It seems like some of the mandrel bends stretched the tubing so its grain kinda shows.
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you must of done it briefly... some of the guys around here dont know what lighty blasting is... they etch the **** out of anything that gets in front of their gun
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