JasonST

So I'm looking into going the turbo route for my h22. I'm trying to decide what kind of turbo to get, I'm looking to spend hopefully not more than $700 on the actual turbo. Anyways, I'm keeping the engine stock for now, so no built internals, and hoping to achieve 275-300 whp to keep it somewhat reliable. I'm looking for a turbo that'l give me this amount of horsepower with an internal wastegated setup and not take high revs to get the power. I was also wondering if the rev hard log manifold is a good choice for a light street setup. Thanks for any help.

blinx9900

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JasonST &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So I'm looking into going the turbo route for my h22. I'm trying to decide what kind of turbo to get, I'm looking to spend hopefully not more than $700 on the actual turbo. Anyways, I'm keeping the engine stock for now, so no built internals, and hoping to achieve 275-300 whp to keep it somewhat reliable. I'm looking for a turbo that'l give me this amount of horsepower with an internal wastegated setup and not take high revs to get the power. I was also wondering if the rev hard log manifold is a good choice for a light street setup. Thanks for any help.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the revhard manifold is good if it dosent crack which it does do often... your honestly limiting yourself BIG TIME with the internal wastegate and your limiting even more once you put a low price cap on that, the only internal WG turbo good for that is a GT2871R or a GT28RS but both are out of your price range, perhaps Greddy has something that will fit your price range, give them a call i know they have alot of internally wg turbos:
http://www.greddy.com/products...ry=20

JasonST

Thx for the help. ok for the sounds of it external wastegates much better. I'm just lookin to make around 275 whp safely with no boost spikes or creeping. Yeah I was hoping for a garrett turbo but the GT's are pretty spendy. I was hopin to not spend more than $700 on one, maybe get one of their older ones. Hmm, so revhard's crack do they? Is there a good manifold under $500 that doesn't crack and that is eather a mini or a log? Thanks for the help guys!

blinx9900

well you could get the journal bearing GT, like the GT32, its good up to 400 ish and its internally wastegated, cost is about $750

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/...1.htm

its a devided housing so spool shouldent be too bad...

JasonST

I wouldn't mind going with an external WG but I thought it would cost me more to get it and rig it up to go back into the exhaust seperately. The GT32 seams fairly cheep for their GT series turbos. Would the interal Wg on it be reliable? And Doesn't it seam a bit big for only 275-300 whp? Thanks alot for the help so far!

JasonST

Do u think a gt28rs with a .86 ar would be a good choice? I like that it's quick spooling and am only looking for at the most 300 whp, but more realisticly 250-275. I'm thinking it'l be alot funner as this will be for DD street use.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/...1.htm


Modified by JasonST at 1:48 PM 3/1/2008

blinx9900

GT28RS is fine but its way out of your price range and from what ive seen it maxes out at about 300whp, trust me when i say this: Giver yourself some room to grow, get something a little more capable, you have a big engine so spool up wont really be an issue.

JasonST

Ok, so I'm aiming for 275 whp now and maybe in a year or two build my engine when i have more money. So what would u suggest would be a good turbo that could accomplish this and be fun for daily driving? Thanks by the way for your help I really appreciate it.

overrev_it

BB is not the way to go for 275-300... it's just a waste of money, if your going BB get a real one, i.e GT30/35/40R and make GREAT power!!!

i'll tell you what makes a good turbo on your H... it's the reguler good-old T3/T4e, at 15 PSI you'll be producing 300-350 whp on pump gas and still spool at ~3500 RPM's.

It's as cheap as 615$, and won't be maxxed out and blowing hot air at 350 whp like the reguler small GT turbo's i.e Disco Potato(GT28RS), that costs as high as 1000+ dollars

meaning you still have the chance to raise the boost with the T3/T4e and produce 400+ whp.

the only downside on this turbo is that it's noot meeting your goal of bieng internally gated, bey hey you can't have it all

JasonST

Thanks for the reply. Yeah if I can save money and get a t3/t4e than I should have money to get a nice external wastegate, I'm just unsure on how to route it into the downpipe/exhaust since fitment is different because it's in an integra, so that would be more custom work +money. So do u think a plain old t3/t4 with a rev hard manifold is fine for a DD h22? just lookin for dd fun and occasional 1/4 track. What would u suggest though about routing the external WG? Any fitment issues with an h22 teg? Thanks for the help so far guys.

blinx9900

t3t04e is not a bad idea, i have no idea how they spool on 2.2's but one with a .63 turbine housing should be pretty decent. yeah it should cost the same to get a t3/t04e with an external gate or just to get the GT32 with an internal gate.

Schister66 had the GT32 and made like 315whp at 10.5psi on a stock GSR!!

JasonST

Ok cool, do u think a gt32 would be safe to run with an internal wastegate to 250-300 without spiking or creeping?

blinx9900

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i pm'd schister66 to see if he could post on here, he should be able to answer that, if not we will feed him to the lions!

AnclyT

there is no way you can have a boosted h22 that is stock, and expect it to be reliable

blinx9900

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reason?

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JasonST &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok cool, do u think a gt32 would be safe to run with an internal wastegate to 250-300 without spiking or creeping?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No. Keep the external wastegate. I have the GT32 series of turbos available. PM me with questions. Here is a link of the setup that was used for the H22 on a GT32 Series turbocharger

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1399687

Schister66

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No. Keep the external wastegate. I have the GT32 series of turbos available. PM me with questions. Here is a link of the setup that was used for the H22 on a GT32 Series turbocharger

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1399687</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont really have any more to offer other than to PM TheShodan and let him tell you about the turbo. I had a GT3255b for this past summer and it was a great turbo for the street. I made 315whp on a stock block GSR.

JasonST

Wow yeah that sounds like great numbers. And it's less than $1000 which is a plus. Hey another question to everyone, how do I setup all my intercooler piping and charge piping? Am I going to have to custom make some because of the fitment of an h22 being in a teg? Thanks!

Edit: Is this the turbo you guys are talking about?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/...2.htm


Modified by JasonST at 9:44 AM 3/2/2008

TheShodan

iTrader: (14)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JasonST &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow yeah that sounds like great numbers. And it's less than $1000 which is a plus. Hey another question to everyone, how do I setup all my intercooler piping and charge piping? Am I going to have to custom make some because of the fitment of an h22 being in a teg? Thanks!

Edit: Is this the turbo you guys are talking about?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/...2.htm


Modified by JasonST at 9:44 AM 3/2/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>

You MAY find those that have piping available for an H22/DC setup, but not likely, you're more than like have to get it custom.

As for the turbocharger you're seeing, that is only one variation of the GT32, there are several others in the same genre.

JasonST

So I'm still trying my best to learn how compressor maps work. So I'm looking on Garrett's site at the gt3267. And my goal is to make around 275-300 whp on a stock h22 at around 7-9 pounds of boost. Now if I calculated it right it landed pretty close to the compressor effeciency range and still had lots of room to grow. I'm not sure though if I'm reading it right. So any feedback would be great, just looking to see if this would work good for my setup, or if anyone has any changes that I should make.

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/...2.htm

bburtonsk8r2

i got a spoolin performance log manifold for sale... 250.. used for about 10 hours, i made 290hp at 5.5psi with that manifold and a sc6169e.. you could maybe get one of them used for 700ish..