cf hood and turbo manifold - how close can they be?
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cf hood and turbo manifold - how close can they be?
I have a neukin manifold on my crx. This is a b18c and I have a carbon fiber SiR style hood - the manifold is pretty close to the hood.
How close can i get the mani to the hood without the clear coat melting/having other probs?
could i use insulating material to keep the heat away from the carbon fiber?
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How close can i get the mani to the hood without the clear coat melting/having other probs?
could i use insulating material to keep the heat away from the carbon fiber?
any other ideas appreciated
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Re: cf hood and turbo manifold - how close can they be? (b18-c-rx)
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I used Caswell Black Satin. I applied it with an airbrush.The stuff works real well, I can hold my hand right next to my Lovefab manifold after a dyno pull and it doesn't radiate much heat at all.
http://www.caswellplating.com/....html
http://www.caswellplating.com/....html
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Re: (rmcdaniels)
ok, thanks for the info!
my cf is about 1" away from the manifold... would you reccomend that spray stuff or some kind of reflective material that I attach to my hood?
Im leaning toward the spray, but I want to be sure that it's sufficient and it wont damage my manifold
Running a neukin stainless steel mani... i assume the black satin stuff will work for that, right?
my cf is about 1" away from the manifold... would you reccomend that spray stuff or some kind of reflective material that I attach to my hood?
Im leaning toward the spray, but I want to be sure that it's sufficient and it wont damage my manifold
Running a neukin stainless steel mani... i assume the black satin stuff will work for that, right?
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The spray stuff worked great for me. I never measured how far my manifold is from my CF hood, but it's a Lovefab SST, so probably about the same distance seeing as it's the same style manifold. If the manifold is used, I'd probably sandblast it first, just to make sure the coating adheres to the metal. I did mine when it was new, so I didn't sandblast it.
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Re: cf hood and turbo manifold - how close can they be? (b18-c-rx)
I was going to try some of that insulating tape that Spoon makes for oil pans. Should be able to stick it to the hood. They sell it on ebay for $20.
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Re: cf hood and turbo manifold - how close can they be? (rioninja)
eyah thats what i was thinking... maybe i'd spray the manifold and do that... couldnt possibly ruin it then
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Re: (b18-c-rx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18-c-rx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my manifold is brand new.
I'm not familiar with sandblasting - could you give me an overview of what it is or shd i search :D</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it's new, then you shouldn't need to sandblast it.
I'm not familiar with sandblasting - could you give me an overview of what it is or shd i search :D</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it's new, then you shouldn't need to sandblast it.
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Re: (rmcdaniels)
Mine is pretty close to my hood, and I have not had any problems. My old full race manifold was not ceramic coated, my new one is. I had no problems with either of them.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rmcdaniels »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If it's new, then you shouldn't need to sandblast it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not very good advice IMO.
If it's new, then you shouldn't need to sandblast it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not very good advice IMO.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
not very good advice IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well technically he should sandblast it with 120 grit aluminum oxide, coat it with a 1-5 mil layer of thermal coating, then bake it at 700 degrees for an hour, but considering that he doesn't know what sandblasting is, he can get away with airbrushing it on a new manifold. It will be more prone to scratching off, but if he's careful with it, then it should be fine, mine is. Of course if he really wants it to be done right, then he should send it to Performance Coatings and really get it done right, but that takes way more time and $.
not very good advice IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well technically he should sandblast it with 120 grit aluminum oxide, coat it with a 1-5 mil layer of thermal coating, then bake it at 700 degrees for an hour, but considering that he doesn't know what sandblasting is, he can get away with airbrushing it on a new manifold. It will be more prone to scratching off, but if he's careful with it, then it should be fine, mine is. Of course if he really wants it to be done right, then he should send it to Performance Coatings and really get it done right, but that takes way more time and $.
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Does this black satin stuff come off easily? after a long time of use, does it start to chip etc?
has anyone else had any experience with these different types of coating material? I'd really like to know if they're reliable.
My plan was to get some of the kevlar padding and just put it in front of the cf so that it's really secure, but I'd like a second line of defense.
has anyone else had any experience with these different types of coating material? I'd really like to know if they're reliable.
My plan was to get some of the kevlar padding and just put it in front of the cf so that it's really secure, but I'd like a second line of defense.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18-c-rx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does this black satin stuff come off easily? after a long time of use, does it start to chip etc?
has anyone else had any experience with these different types of coating material? I'd really like to know if they're reliable.
My plan was to get some of the kevlar padding and just put it in front of the cf so that it's really secure, but I'd like a second line of defense.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It comes off really easily until it gets baked on, so you have to be careful with it. After the manifold gets heated up, then it's about like paint, it can be scraped off, but not too easily. Of course if you do sandblast it and bake it on, then it will be more durable. I just put it on my new manifold, and I've scratched some of it off while working on the car, but it's never flaked off.
has anyone else had any experience with these different types of coating material? I'd really like to know if they're reliable.
My plan was to get some of the kevlar padding and just put it in front of the cf so that it's really secure, but I'd like a second line of defense.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It comes off really easily until it gets baked on, so you have to be careful with it. After the manifold gets heated up, then it's about like paint, it can be scraped off, but not too easily. Of course if you do sandblast it and bake it on, then it will be more durable. I just put it on my new manifold, and I've scratched some of it off while working on the car, but it's never flaked off.
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I apply ceramic coating at my shop every week. It is all about prep work. If you half-*** it you get half-*** results. You can speculate and hope its will be OK or you can just do it correctly. your choice.
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Very little, I bought the big can and hardly used any of it. You use an airbrush to apply it, and only a very thin coat is recommended.
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Re: cf hood and turbo manifold - how close can they be? (b18-c-rx)
i have the neukin mani also and a vis carbon fiber hood. i just put some dynamat xtreme under the hood were the mani is and i have had no problems with melting or anything. I noticed it stays pretty cool above the mani on the outside also.
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The only time the hood will ever become even warm is when you are idlnig for a while. Once you idle 5-10 mintesu, then the hood becoems hot. When moving or idlnig at lights, you ahve nothing to worry about.
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