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Old 05-15-2012, 07:31 PM
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Default Cel codes since I installed Dsm 440cc injectors

My 2000 civic Si is throwing 3 cel codes since I installed my injectors with a resistor box. Throwing a misfire, too rich and another. Codes are P1399 P0170 P0172. I'm running a greddy Tdoh5 18g turbo with the terrible greddy e-manage blue. Any help with this would be great until I can afford my hondata and p28 upgrade. Thanks
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Uhh.. yeah.. that's going ot happen, the "terrible" blue box has to be tapped so that you can change the parameters in the E-manage (if you have that version. the original "blue box" was not an e-manage at all, but a pre-configured piggy-back to run the 310cc injectors that came with the original kit)

So you either have an E-manage, that hasn't been tapped yet, or the original Blue box which is not an e-manage at all. Either way, you need to stop driving, get your hondata and start over.
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It is the e-manage and I have the support tool that I plugged into my laptop. I didnt make any adjustments except for the change in injector size. Is there anything I can do for the next few weeks to make it safe to drive? I had the emanage installed with the stock injectors and had no cel, I didn't take the car over 3000 rpms until I put the 440cc in. I am only running around 6-8 lbs of boost, it ran strong when I hit the pedal today. Any help with this emanage would be great! (besides telling me to throw it in the garbage) I just need it for a few more weeks when I have the hondata or chrome parts in hand.
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Nope. You need to retune with the actual e-manage, or don't drive the car until you have the other management.
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Retune with the emanage? On a dyno? Its the universal blue with just the main harness, can I make any adjustments from my laptop or is there any fuel curve maps avail anywhere online? I just don't know crap about this greddy turd. Would I want to turn the 5 airflow adjustments clockwise or counter +/-
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Default Re: Cel codes since I installed Dsm 440cc injectors

What you have is a pre tuned greddy piggy back that is designed to work with 310cc injectors.

That's why your running pig *** rich. You can't change anything to fix it thats going to help.

Put the stock injectors back in and baby it with no boost untill you get your proper engine management and have it tuned properly.

If you keep driving it the way it is, you are going to wash out the cylinders, destroy the rings and lower end bearings, and have to rebuild the motor.
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Default Re: Cel codes since I installed Dsm 440cc injectors

People still run emanage?
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Default Re: Cel codes since I installed Dsm 440cc injectors

Originally Posted by SovXietday
People still run emanage?
Yep. Got one right now on by brother's car. We just have the Ultimate version. Runs great for his 350whp application too.

Just because iit isn't the super-duper Neptune,Hondata,AEM stuff Y0!!, doesn't mean that people don't use it.
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Default Re: Cel codes since I installed Dsm 440cc injectors

Originally Posted by TheShodan
Yep. Got one right now on by brother's car. We just have the Ultimate version. Runs great for his 350whp application too.
sorry to get off topic but can e-manage ultimate control timing? if so how? if not how do you retard timing in boost?
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