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B16A1-EF9 11-01-2004 08:06 PM

Carillo H-Beam connecting rods
 
How much power are these rods good for? I've heard many things about them, they are supposed to be the best rod Carillo makes. I've heard things like 45 PSI of boost and 900 HP at the wheels.

What are they really rated for? At what boost and power levels have you guys seen these fail at???

Johnyquest 11-01-2004 08:10 PM

Re: Carillo H-Beam connecting rods (B16A1-EF9)
 
This isn't the most constructive or backed up with hardcore evidence response that you could get -- but I don't think you'll break those rods. They are good to over 12k rpms and the horsepower number that you threw out there is arbitrary. Tuned correctly, they will hold everything you will make, most likely. Your pistons will melt and shatter before you'll bend those rods. Those rods have crank twisting strength.

Matt

b18cx 11-01-2004 08:13 PM

Re: Carillo H-Beam connecting rods (B16A1-EF9)
 
I know this is completly off you subject title, but I thought I would add this. Called Eagle today to inquire the same for their H-beam rods. Eagle H-beam with the upgrade ARP 3/8 bolt are rated for 1000hp and unlimited rpm. The regular H-beam with the 5/16 bolt are rated for 650hp and 11,000 rpm. This is direct from what Eagle told me on the phone.

B16A1-EF9 11-01-2004 08:36 PM

Re: Carillo H-Beam connecting rods (Johnyquest)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Johnyquest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This isn't the most constructive or backed up with hardcore evidence response that you could get -- but I don't think you'll break those rods. They are good to over 12k rpms and the horsepower number that you threw out there is arbitrary. Tuned correctly, they will hold everything you will make, most likely. Your pistons will melt and shatter before you'll bend those rods. Those rods have crank twisting strength.

Matt</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats a really good thing to hear. I got these rods in today for my setup. They look really really good. I also got there upgraded rod bolts also which are supposed to be the next best thing. That was an expensive option but from what they told me it's worth the extra money for a high boost forced induction application.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18cx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know this is completly off you subject title, but I thought I would add this. Called Eagle today to inquire the same for their H-beam rods. Eagle H-beam with the upgrade ARP 3/8 bolt are rated for 1000hp and unlimited rpm. The regular H-beam with the 5/16 bolt are rated for 650hp and 11,000 rpm. This is direct from what Eagle told me on the phone. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not to sound like an ass or anything, but I don't think I would trust Eagle for a high boost turbo app. I hope I'm not opening a big can of worms by saying this.
I don't really know if I can believe them when they say "1000HP and unlimited RPM"...that just sounds too over rated.

When I ordered my rods I was basically trying to decide between three makes. Carillo, Oliver or Crower. I decided not to go with Crower just because one of our race cars just had finished bending a set in his motor. That kind of made me zero out Crower right away. Then between Oliver and Carillo the price difference was considerable....so from what I was told by my machinist....that Carillo has been around for a very long time and that they make a rod that can take 45 PSI...I was pretty much sold on them....and ordered them. After seeing them today (and I'll post pics later) I'm pretty much convinced that their rods really are great. The machining of the rods is perfect and even the feel of the bolts as you unscrew them from the caps is WILD! So precise.

earl 11-01-2004 08:59 PM

Re: Carillo H-Beam connecting rods (b18cx)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18cx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know this is completly off you subject title, but I thought I would add this. Called Eagle today to inquire the same for their H-beam rods. Eagle H-beam with the upgrade ARP 3/8 bolt are rated for 1000hp and unlimited rpm. The regular H-beam with the 5/16 bolt are rated for 650hp and 11,000 rpm. This is direct from what Eagle told me on the phone. </TD></TR></TABLE>This is a biggest crock of sh*t I have ever heard. I can't wait to talk to Eagle at SEMA tomorrow and let them know the kind of bs their tech guys spit out. Those ratings are a joke.
BTW, I saw a broken rod out of Stephanie Eggerts hot rod car...it was a Carillo...so I guess no one is perfect.

b18cx 11-01-2004 09:03 PM

Re: Carillo H-Beam connecting rods (earl)
 
hey now, did not say I belived them, but just quoting what I was told. Had orgionally called inquireing about the power limit on the 5/16 and was informed on the 3/8 as well.

PrettyLude 11-02-2004 06:27 AM

1000 hp on eagles, i haven't even seen that yet

earl 11-02-2004 07:15 AM

Re: (PrettyLude)
 
It could happen but not for long https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Gravy 11-02-2004 07:31 AM

Re: (PrettyLude)
 
i have a customer with a pro rwd lexus and he is making 1300+ whp on carillos.

AVATAR 11-02-2004 03:35 PM

Re: (Gravy)
 
Carillo's are definately nice . . . why did you rule out Pauters?

B16A1-EF9 11-02-2004 03:49 PM

Re: (AVATAR)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AVATAR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Carillo's are definately nice . . . why did you rule out Pauters?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't rule out the Pauters...I'm just not really familiar with them and no one I know uses them.
What do you guys think of Pauter vs. Carrillo???

hondaguyef 11-02-2004 04:32 PM

Re: (B16A1-EF9)
 
Not honda related but, My dad swears by Carillo. He had a set of their H-beams in his 89' stang w/ 347. He made 435whp and 410wtq. It was a road race car and he spun it to 8k every other weekend(at the track) and it was driven about 100 mi. per week. The motor lasted for an entire year w/o a problem. The car was totalled later that year and the motor was sold. The person who bought the motor has the bottom end in a drag stang and said that those rods have been used for 3 different rebuilds. I just wanted to give some first hand facts.

Phil

PrettyLude 11-02-2004 05:13 PM

carillos are pretty tough, you see them in alot of big boy supras

Darin D. 11-02-2004 05:42 PM

Re: (PrettyLude)
 
Carillos are in all of our race motors, haven't broken one from power yet.

1500+ hp on our 2jz with no problems. Almost all the guys running the 2jz in high hp setups 1200+hp are using carillos.


Also used them in james' street civic, no problems with over 700 hp.


B16A1-EF9 11-02-2004 05:47 PM

Re: (TitanDarin)
 
Thanks guys for all your replies...
Heres some pics.

http://www.evolution-racing.com/temp...rts0000034.JPG

http://www.evolution-racing.com/temp...rts0000035.JPG


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