integra_101

What are the fines of cops catching you with nos

I know you can have everything set up. you just cant have the actual bottle in your car.
Im trying to find a reall good place to hide it. What am i looking at for fines if they catch me with it(not using it)

thank you.



Mods, if this is in the wrong section, can you move it please. thanks

KevinEF7

The bottle is allowed to be in the car, there can be no hardlines hooked to it. Not even a purge line.

I ran nitrous for 2 years in the GTA and never got checked.

The fine is big though

rich7777

Damn Canada seems strict ! I don't think the majority of our police know what a turbo is, let alone a bottle of nos lol.

integra_101

Are you sure you can have the bottle in the car. I heard its illegal to transport without authorization because its so flammable

boosted_D

iTrader: (1)

You just have to get the tricked out vin diesel mini nos bottles that hide in secret under the seat, then they will never know

SiRCiviC94

You hide it. And if u are trying to be legit u can't hide anything. Running on the street the legit "" way u need a quick disconnect on a button for when you're pulled over then they can't prove it was hooked up.

Fine is big up to 10,000 I think and vehicle seizure

dc2lsvtech

Nos is NON Flammable....

integra_101

anyone here actually have nos to give a definitive answer.

KevinEF7

I already told you, Im local to yourself, I looked into the highway traffic act section 128 when installing my kit, the HTA is online and free if you want to look for yourself

You are allowed to have the bottle installed, filled and pressurized, there just can be no lines attached.

As said, the fine is big, I dont think 10K, but I think i recall $2500 or such. Just dont be a ****, keep the bottle out of site and no cop would ever look for it.

I was pulled over 20+ times when I had that setup, no sweat.

4genaccordfreak

Nitrous is NON-flammable. Sounds like you do not know anything about it other than horsepower in a bottle.

Regardless, it is a compressed gas cylinder. Not sure if the aftermarket has any regulations on the material and safety of the cylinders.

The fine is typically for illegally/unsafely transporting a compressed gas in a non-regulated or certified vehicle.

I know for a fact in Canada, to transport any kind of compressed gasses, you need a TDG licence and certification (which is Transportation of Dangerous Goods) to be used in a certified and approved vehicle with several specific Safety related items on board in case of an accident.

Found some literature that may clear up some thoughts on whether it is safe or legal.


TRANSPORTATION OF DANGEROUS GOODS REGULATIONS

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/tdg/clear-tofc-211.htm


Regulations Amending the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Regulations (Amendment 11)

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/20...rs245-eng.html


Regulations
Respecting
Compressed Gas
Pressure Vessels

(e) “A.S.M.E.” means the American Society of Mechanical Engineers;
(f) “C.R.C.” means the Board of Transport Commissioners for Canada or the
Canadian Railway Commission;
(g) “C.S.A.” means the Canadian Standards Association;
(h) “I.C.C.” means the Inter-State Commerce Commission of the United
States of America;

(b) “compressed gas” means any gas whether in a liquid, vapour, or
dissolved state, which is explosive, inflammable or toxic or contained under
pressure exceeding fifteen pounds to the square inch, exempting only those
gases where regulations have already been established;

(d) “approved” unless otherwise stated, means approved by the chief
inspector;

(j) “portable cylinder” means a pressure vessel constructed, tested and
marked in accordance with C.R.C. or I.C.C. specifications and approved by the
chief inspector;

(k) “pressure container” means any vessel subject to pressure from a
compressed gas other than a portable cylinder constructed in accordance with
C.R.C. or I.C.C. requirements;

(l) “storage tank” means any pressure vessel or pressure container
designed in accordance with these regulations for storing or containing a
compressed gas;

(m) “transport tank” means a pressure vessel other than a railway tank
car, designed to be permanently mounted on a conveyance as an integral unit
and used for containing and transporting a compressed gas in regular
commercial services; and all other expressions shall have the same meaning
as in the Act.

Approved vessels
2(1) No pressure vessel other than an approved portable cylinder as defined in
section 1(j) or an approved storage tank, transport tank, or other pressure
container designed, constructed and fitted in accordance with these regulations
shall be used for the storage, delivery or application of a compressed gas.
(2) It shall be a violation to construct, sell, lease, use or fill any vessel or container
with a compressed gas which does not meet all the requirements of these
regulations.
(3) The requirements contained in these regulations respecting the design,
construction and use of pressure vessels and pressure containers for a compressed
gas are based on the requirements of C.S.A. Code B51, the A.S.M.E. codes.

Vessel design registration
4(1) Every pressure vessel or pressure container including bulk storage tanks,
used storage tanks, transport tanks, shall have their design approved and
registered by the department prior to construction or entry into the province for
which purpose the manufacturer shall submit design drawings and specifications
to the chief inspector in duplicate in accordance with the requirements of C.S.A.
Code B51.
(2) When a vessel design has been approved and registered by the department,
any design or construction changes including material changes, will require
department approval, which, unless they are of a minor nature will require the
resubmitting of new design drawings and specification to the department for re-registration.
(3) A minimum corrosion allowance of 1/8" shall be required on all vessels
containing corrosive gases or liquids.

Stamping and Manufacturer’s Affidavit
5 Where a vessel design has been approved and registered and the registration
number allotted thereto by the department, vessels may be constructed according
to such design in any number unless the design is cancelled by the department or
becomes obsolete due to revisions in the regulations or in the codes, rules or
standards referred to therein, provided that the following requirements are
complied with:
(a) every vessel is constructed in strict accordance with the design which has
been approved and registered by Saskatchewan, including the vessel
dimensions, the thickness of shell and heads, the A.S.M.E. or A.S.T.M.
material specifications and all other design details, and all welding is in
accordance with a tested and proven procedure meeting the requirements of
the A.S.M.E. Welding Qualifications code and section 7;

Vessel design pressure
8 Every storage vessel or pressure container shall be designed for a minimum
pressure of 175% of the gas vapour pressure at 100*F. and every transport vessel or
pressure container shall be designed for a minimum pressure of 200% of the gas
vapour pressure at 100*F.

Use for other gases prohibited
20 Pressure vessels, containers and cylinders shall not be used for other than the
gas designated.

Transport vessel limitations
21 Every vessel used for transporting compressed gases in any way whatsoever
shall meet the following requirements:
(a) transport or trailer tanks in regular commercial delivery service shall be
permanently fastened to the vehicle irrespective of capacity, and design
drawings covering the vessel and the vehicle as a unit shall be submitted to
the department for registration;
(b) every unit used for compressed gas delivery shall meet all requirements
of the Highway Traffic Board respecting such vehicles in addition to meeting
the requirements of these regulations.

COLES NOTES:

What was already stated above: Don't have the bottle out in the open. Leave it unhooked. Cover it up. Don't drive like an idiot if you have it hooked up.

deabhguf

I ran nitrous for 2 years in the GTA and never got checked.

OneBadTurboCRV

Everyone WANTS to be spoon fed these days. If you actually looked around you would find there are more than just one size bottle of 10 lbs... if you can't figure out where to hide it, then you deserve to get caught. Think "Sneaky Pete" kit or motorcycles. It isn't that hard at all.

integra_101

Who wants to use sneaky petes lol. I want to run 3 10lb bottles. I go big. If you dont have anything positive to say about this thread, then you can leave. Im looking for answers. not smart *** comments

OneBadTurboCRV

So what? You got both. Now show me where it said you want to run three 10 lb bottles in your original posts? I am not the ignorant child crying about maybe getting caught with his pants down. There is no way ANY Honda even remotely needs that much nitrous. Even if one bottle is strictly for show. On my 600 shot 3 nitrous setup a 15 lb bottle is good for a couple passes (even though at that level that get switched out every run). I have a second one just to "show off" at the line and purge as a crowd pleaser.

You sound like you don't know the basics. The formula for calculating your nitrous usage is:

0.8 lbs N2O X 10 seconds = 100 horsepower.

If your system is jetted for 100 horsepower it will use 0.8 lbs of nitrous for every 10 seconds of usage.

wantboost

iTrader: (2)

First off.... Canada lol
Secondly, why in the **** do you need 30 pounds?

91integraLSVTEC

first of all.. why would you canadians run nitrous? its so over priced there at $9lb. and on top of that they want your bottles certified like scuba gear.. its just not worth it.. if you want cheap power might as well put a t28 turbo and call it a day...

and i agree with above ^ canada.. lol!

SiRCiviC94

canada...50kmh over the speed limit = vehicle seizure and suspension on the spot. anything for even an intake is 300+$ fine , the car can be deemed for street racing and car impounded IF they want.

rich7777

That's crazy lol. They should of remained part of our empire hehe. They'd be 1000x better off.

integra_101

you`re wrong. its 3$ anywhere you go. and no you dont need them certified. just maintained. and you`re just a tool.

no youre wrong. the veichle gets towed for 7 days, then you get it back. and you get yous license suspended for 30 days. learn your **** before you talk. and how deep in your *** did you go to pull out that 300$ intake fine. ******* americans, you guys are so ignorant and stupid.

no thanks

SiRCiviC94

^ we have a winner.

1. where in the **** is it 3$ a pound ill call them right now and fill 30lbs.

2. did i mention the period of time the seizure and suspension was, nobody asked? you get a week suspesnion and a week vehicle seizure as far as I know. I dont get caught speeding never have.

3. the intake fine is BS? its the same as any emission law, you got no cat, a breather on your valve cover, gutted black box. lookin at 380$ PER issue. no battery strap? 165, no signal bulb? 110...


so are you for real ?

Boyle.R

That's nuts, 300 fine for a intake

SPOOLINmatt

damn we can ride around here with exhaust through the hood LOL

SiRCiviC94

if the intake uses the air sensor correctly and has the line from the cover to the intake that is legal but they will still take you to court sometimes

2point2

Focus your efforts into not getting pulled over in the first place.

eg. don't rev out a rusty fart-can civic at 2:30am through down-town Hamilton. Make sure you are heading to the track or back home whenever you have the bottles on you. If you have a good attitude the cops aren't going to waste their time calling up the MTO.

If the MTO is doing one of their things then you can't do much about wrong place wrong time.. I don't think you'll be able to hide 30lbs worth of nitrous bottles from them. lol

BTW, your question has mostly to do with Ontario Canada's highway traffic act, not "Canada".

Have you watched the news is the last 10-15 years?

integra_101

we dont even get in trouble for the little breather filter.

so, we are not getting in trouble for having an aftermarket intake.