camshafts no good for turbo...
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camshafts no good for turbo...
well, the guy who assembled my engine says my cams are no good for turbo as the lobes are too big... anyone know what kind of cams I should get for turbo? stock gsr cams will do or what? btw, its a b18c1 engine..
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Re: camshafts no good for turbo... (c2nap)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by c2nap »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, the guy who assembled my engine says my cams are no good for turbo as the lobes are too big... anyone know what kind of cams I should get for turbo? stock gsr cams will do or what? btw, its a b18c1 engine..</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you're using stock GSR cams, they're more than sufficient for boost. Just time them further away and you should have on probs. If those are the cams you're using right now, then you should look for a new tuner.
If you're using stock GSR cams, they're more than sufficient for boost. Just time them further away and you should have on probs. If those are the cams you're using right now, then you should look for a new tuner.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by c2nap »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they are not stock cams... all he said was they are shitty for turbo... should i just get stock gsr cams or other ones?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Alright, so I'll ask it as directly as possible...
<FONT SIZE="50"><FONT COLOR="red">What</FONT> <FONT COLOR="green">specs</FONT> <FONT COLOR="purple">are</FONT> <FONT COLOR="yellow">the</FONT> <FONT COLOR="blue">cams,</FONT> <FONT COLOR="pink">Dumbass?!</FONT></FONT>
Let's take it from here.
Alright, so I'll ask it as directly as possible...
<FONT SIZE="50"><FONT COLOR="red">What</FONT> <FONT COLOR="green">specs</FONT> <FONT COLOR="purple">are</FONT> <FONT COLOR="yellow">the</FONT> <FONT COLOR="blue">cams,</FONT> <FONT COLOR="pink">Dumbass?!</FONT></FONT>
Let's take it from here.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hpfsi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL even I have to admit that was damn funny to scroll down and read that **** </TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, That's how I felt when I first saw Carl in your Avatar, lol.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know the specs dumbass... i got the number on the side tho...h003 036 ...that tell ya anything?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well they're definitely not stock cams (stock cams are stamped to match the ECU). Aside from that, I have absolutely no idea what cams they are, but I do know that you can mic them and get a pretty good idea of what specs they are.
lol, That's how I felt when I first saw Carl in your Avatar, lol.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know the specs dumbass... i got the number on the side tho...h003 036 ...that tell ya anything?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well they're definitely not stock cams (stock cams are stamped to match the ECU). Aside from that, I have absolutely no idea what cams they are, but I do know that you can mic them and get a pretty good idea of what specs they are.
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GSR cams are good for turbo. I've also heard GSR intake, and B16 exhaust or Type R intake, and GSR exhaust.
Has anybody heard anything on that?
Has anybody heard anything on that?
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high lift and low duration?
are you sure you dont mean high lift and low *OVERLAP*?
overlap is what causes the boost pressure to jet out the exhaust before combustion is complete. duration just allows MORE air into the cylinder
are you sure you dont mean high lift and low *OVERLAP*?
overlap is what causes the boost pressure to jet out the exhaust before combustion is complete. duration just allows MORE air into the cylinder
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most cams will work well as long as theres not too much duration in the lobes. ITR's seem to be the most agressive that most people can get away with. they may require some cam gear adjustments to get them perfect, like anything else.
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Re: camshafts no good for turbo... (fjt)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fjt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for turbo you should get Higher lift and the least duration possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<U>WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</U>
If you have as little duration as possible your car will make no high RPM power, period. You want to MINIMIZE overlap, and that usually means a bit less duration than N/A.
<U>WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</U>
If you have as little duration as possible your car will make no high RPM power, period. You want to MINIMIZE overlap, and that usually means a bit less duration than N/A.
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Re: camshafts no good for turbo... (boosted92)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
<U>WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</U>
If you have as little duration as possible your car will make no high RPM power, period. You want to MINIMIZE overlap, and that usually means a bit less duration than N/A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What are you guys arguing about? You're both right, depending on the situation. If you're running a mild RPM (sub 8k) and mild boost, more overlat and less lift will be prescribed. If you're running high RPM and/or higher boost (18+) you'll definitely want more lift and less duration. If you really want to get into it I'll explain why.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">itr cams and adjust the overlap out with a set of cam gear</TD></TR></TABLE>
Best answer I've heard yet.
<U>WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</U>
If you have as little duration as possible your car will make no high RPM power, period. You want to MINIMIZE overlap, and that usually means a bit less duration than N/A.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What are you guys arguing about? You're both right, depending on the situation. If you're running a mild RPM (sub 8k) and mild boost, more overlat and less lift will be prescribed. If you're running high RPM and/or higher boost (18+) you'll definitely want more lift and less duration. If you really want to get into it I'll explain why.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">itr cams and adjust the overlap out with a set of cam gear</TD></TR></TABLE>
Best answer I've heard yet.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">high lift and low duration?
are you sure you dont mean high lift and low *OVERLAP*?
overlap is what causes the boost pressure to jet out the exhaust before combustion is complete. duration just allows MORE air into the cylinder</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah thats what i mean..
I mix terms sometimes since English is not my main language
Thanks for the correction
are you sure you dont mean high lift and low *OVERLAP*?
overlap is what causes the boost pressure to jet out the exhaust before combustion is complete. duration just allows MORE air into the cylinder</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah thats what i mean..
I mix terms sometimes since English is not my main language
Thanks for the correction
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by c2nap »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know the specs dumbass... i got the number on the side tho...h003 036 ...that tell ya anything?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Since you don't know the specs and you call the people trying to help you a dumbass, i guess your just fucked... dumbass.
I'll be nice and let you know that if you are going for a budget setup, the cams should be alrite, but if you want to make good power, you should determine what cams are in there, then determine if you want to keep them.
Since you don't know the specs and you call the people trying to help you a dumbass, i guess your just fucked... dumbass.
I'll be nice and let you know that if you are going for a budget setup, the cams should be alrite, but if you want to make good power, you should determine what cams are in there, then determine if you want to keep them.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by c2nap »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">e-thuggin y0!
anyway, i think im either going to go with gsr cams or itr cams... thanks for all the info whoever contributed...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ready to look and feel like a true dumbass?? ppppssssssssssttt....The cams you have may already be ITR or GSR spec. Don't you think it'd be a good idea to measure them first? Nah...That's way too productive.
anyway, i think im either going to go with gsr cams or itr cams... thanks for all the info whoever contributed...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ready to look and feel like a true dumbass?? ppppssssssssssttt....The cams you have may already be ITR or GSR spec. Don't you think it'd be a good idea to measure them first? Nah...That's way too productive.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1316130057 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
stock cams are stamped to match the ECU).
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No they aren't.
BTW, for the creator of this post, I have a set of GSR cams for sale.
stock cams are stamped to match the ECU).
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No they aren't.
BTW, for the creator of this post, I have a set of GSR cams for sale.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No they aren't.
BTW, for the creator of this post, I have a set of GSR cams for sale.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh really?? So if I show you 10 different cams from 5 different cars, you'll say I'm wrong, right??
Do some research man. All of the B/D-series cams are stamped to match their ECU's which match the heads. Don't believe me? Go to "search" and type in the name of the ECU and you'll see cams with the same name.
On that note, if you don't know what you're talking about, shhhhh...You're just making an *** of your self. You could have spent 2min and done some research before you got your dumb-*** humiliated. This also makes it apparant that you either A: Have never disassembled a Honda engine, and B: Apparantly don't have real GSR cams for sale.
No they aren't.
BTW, for the creator of this post, I have a set of GSR cams for sale.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh really?? So if I show you 10 different cams from 5 different cars, you'll say I'm wrong, right??
Do some research man. All of the B/D-series cams are stamped to match their ECU's which match the heads. Don't believe me? Go to "search" and type in the name of the ECU and you'll see cams with the same name.
On that note, if you don't know what you're talking about, shhhhh...You're just making an *** of your self. You could have spent 2min and done some research before you got your dumb-*** humiliated. This also makes it apparant that you either A: Have never disassembled a Honda engine, and B: Apparantly don't have real GSR cams for sale.
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listen jackass, the cam part numbers have the ecu in them, the only way to identify them is by the rings on the end. dont be a moron.