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Old 01-07-2017, 03:49 PM
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Thats a big *** can.
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I'm building my own oil catch can. I copied boosted94gsr (thanks for the info!) but I'm using thinner material. Also bent the aluminum sheet since I have no access to a lasercut around me. Hope it will not explode! LOL

Still don't know how to do the filters that will vent in athmosphere. I want to do something low profile and different....

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Just do what I did. Simple and low profile like you're looking for. I just cut my aluminum out with a portable bandsaw that I made a stand for. I would have folded it if I had a break. The whole reason I post what I do is to give other people ideas and to hopefully help other diy guys. The first 3 pics are of how I did the filter on mine. I just welded 1/4" aluminum spacers to offset the top, then I drilled and tapped it and counter sunk the holes so it all fit flush.

The last 2 pics are of another idea I came across while researching how to do mine. Sorry I don't mean to clog your thread up with pics, just trying to offer ideas to help.
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Old 01-08-2017, 05:30 AM
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You can post what you want ! nudes are preferred tho LOL! no problem I'm the one that is copying you !

I think that threads will snap on mine cause is 2mm material but I'll try!

Does everyone thought to put a carbon active filter in order to reduce the oil smell?
Old 01-24-2017, 02:04 AM
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little update. While I'm waiting for the an10 bungs to weld on the catch can, I bought an aem water meth kit. I'm currently fab a dedicated tank in stainless steel ( I did a bit of research and seems that aluminum is not good ). I didn't like the aem one because I cannot hide it in the car. Pictures soon!
I've also raised to 9,5 PSI the boost on my stock b16. Holy **** I need a LSD LOL!
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little update. While I'm waiting for the an10 bungs to weld on the catch can, I bought an aem water meth kit. I'm currently fab a dedicated tank in stainless steel ( I did a bit of research and seems that aluminum is not good ). I didn't like the aem one because I cannot hide it in the car. Pictures soon!
I've also raised to 9,5 PSI the boost on my stock b16. Holy **** I need a LSD LOL!
Nice man! I'll be ordering an aem methanol injection kit soon too
Old 04-11-2017, 01:35 AM
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Hi Guys!

My stock clutch finally has gone, and I replaced it with a new competition clutch stage 4 six puck and flywheel. I'm doing the brake in, still on stock engine in order to learn and practice a bit how to tune water meth before installing the new engine!

I'm at 200 miles but I noticed that I still have a lot of chatter. Is that normal? I'm a bit tired of braking it in LOL
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You've got about 200-300 miles to go. You're getting there.

I agree about the AEM methanol container. It's garbage. I went with this.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-290101/overview/

I found that worked better for my Aquamist HF-3 Meth/water kit.
Old 04-11-2017, 04:58 PM
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Cabletie...Did you torch weld (oxy/acetylene) the catch can?
My Comp clutch same as yours (on my second one now) I don't recall much chatter, maybe it's just that you have to learn the proper release.
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HI! no it's tig welded.

I finished the brake in and started to tune with water meth. As expected at 10 psi I'm having missfire issues so I'm considering an external msd ignition coil. Btw I was able to advance ignition with no knock and the little civic is becoming awesome!
Unfortunately I still have chatter with the clutch but no slipping.

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This will be interesting for any affects to the grade steel you've chosen. What concentrate of methanol / water do you plan to use? I'm curious what Italy has over there that might be used in our applications.

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Old 04-12-2017, 11:45 AM
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I'm in Italy not France . I used a 304 grade that has a "polished" finish. They sell it already polished and I know that it will add resistance to rust. Btw I have to re-do it because the metal sheets were too thin and when full welded the tank is deformed. I used 1mm thickness but I think I will go with a 3mm and a 316 grade for peace of mind.

I have a question about the aem water meth. Hope that someone can help. I'm trying to connect the boost/safe wire to my ecu to trigger the ignition timing. The problem is that the wire is always grounded. Even if I disconnect the fluid sensor of the tank or the pump, the controller will flash showing an error, but the wire will still be grounded. I send an email to aem and I'm waiting an reply, but I really hope that someone can help me to figure this out because I want to tune it safely. Thanks!
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I'm in Italy not France . I used a 304 grade that has a "polished" finish. They sell it already polished and I know that it will add resistance to rust. Btw I have to re-do it because the metal sheets were too thin and when full welded the tank is deformed. I used 1mm thickness but I think I will go with a 3mm and a 316 grade for peace of mind.

I have a question about the aem water meth. Hope that someone can help. I'm trying to connect the boost/safe wire to my ecu to trigger the ignition timing. The problem is that the wire is always grounded. Even if I disconnect the fluid sensor of the tank or the pump, the controller will flash showing an error, but the wire will still be grounded. I send an email to aem and I'm waiting an reply, but I really hope that someone can help me to figure this out because I want to tune it safely. Thanks!
I have my boost/safe wire going to my ecu to switch to my secondary fuel and timing maps for safety. My boost/safe wire is only grounded when there is an error detected by the system, otherwise it is not grounded. I tested it by unplugging the fluid level sensor and it immediately grounded and triggered my secondary maps. If yours is grounded all the time then the system is sensing and error or you have other wiring issues or problems with the controller. The boost/safe wire should definitely not be grounded if you get green led lights.
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Well don't ask me why, but this morning all is working as it should. I hate black magic !!!!!
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I'm in Italy not France . . Thanks!
My apologies. I was looking at both you and soxle's threads on two monitors simultaneously
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No problem 😄
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Hi guys! I want to share with you my first dyno pull, with the stock engine. 10 psi, water/meth and no knock at all. I can push it harder but I'm afraid with the stock block.
I'm happy with the torque curve btw since is all road tuning and homemade. Opinions?


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Any comments?
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Dyno looks nice.Did you tried only with water but not meth?
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Thanks!

No but I'd like to see differences! I'm at 50/50 water meth now. 500cc get
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Nice man! For those that don't use The Google, or speak killowatt's, that's roughly 285 HP. Good numbers, and a good looking power curve. 500cc injectors? You're probably about maxing those out. I have a similar setup using water/meth as well, and about 14 psi is where I run out of injector at stock fuel pressure on 550cc.
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No but I'd like to see differences! I'm at 50/50 water meth now. 500cc get
What water injection kit you use?By the way Im neighboor(Greece)
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Nice man! For those that don't use The Google, or speak killowatt's, that's roughly 285 HP. Good numbers, and a good looking power curve. 500cc injectors? You're probably about maxing those out. I have a similar setup using water/meth as well, and about 14 psi is where I run out of injector at stock fuel pressure on 550cc.
Nope I mean the water meth jet! The AEM kit comes with 3 jets : 250cc, 500cc and 1200cc (o 1500cc I don't remember)

I'm using 550cc injectors that can be raised to 620cc with fuel pressure.

@Balor_gr, that's awesome!! there are a lot of turbo civic around the world LOL.
I'm using Aem water meth kit.
I'm also using boost by gear. Low boost at 7 psi, and I made a little controller that can switch to "high boost" at 12 psi. The good thing about the controller is that if the water meth is not active or have a problem high boost doesn't work and it goes back in low boost settings.
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Hello guys,

I'm about to finish the new water meth tank. Does anyone know if exist a treatment for the inside to prevent rust, that can survive to meth? The gum treatment used for motorbike tanks for instance will resist?
thanks
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I'm about to finish the new water meth tank. Does anyone know if exist a treatment for the inside to prevent rust, that can survive to meth? The gum treatment used for motorbike tanks for instance will resist?
thanks
Unfortunately, no, because we don't use steel or aluminum when getting these tanks. (That's why we don't make them like you would a fuel cell. )
We use ABS plastic or some other polyethylene compound to store that methyl-alcohol.

If there is an accessible metal treatment, I'd be as interested to know as you. Perhaps something from the OEM that's used in OEM fuel tanks that are designed to run E85 or some other ethyl-alcohol content? I'm sure that there is some company that is contracted by the OEM (3M, BASF, METALDYNE all seem to come to mind) that have applicable corrosion resistant chemical compounds that can be applied to metal. But I'm sure that has to be purchased in bulk to be of any reasonable cost.
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I called a company based here in Italy called Tankerite. It is resistent to 100% ethanol. I only need to know if it will be good for meth, but I think yes.
And is affordable!

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