turbodano

After lots of testing we have a turbo that out spools the ball bearing GT30 and also makes lots more power. The ETT 50trim uses the latest in turbo technoligy to make lots of power and also spool super fast. On the dyno and on the track we are seeing the ETT 50 trim spool 200-700 rpm qicker and making around 50-75whp more at the same boost.

Please take a look at this high performing very durable S series turbo on our website http://www.bullseyepower.com

igo4bmx

dynos?

prooof?


do you work for bulleye power?

PeakBoost

???

ZacCarter

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Dyno sheets or ban.

turbodano

Yes I own part of Bullseye and we have lots of proof. I have a few dynos on a Acura Integra and also Chris Rado dynoed it back to back on his road race car. Rado is sending the dyno info over soon, for now we have info from Rado posted on our site.

I will also post the info from the Acura that SLS provided us. He made 551whp at 32 psi. This car uses are beefed up bottom end but has a totally stock head and cams.





Modified by turbodano at 11:37 AM 11/29/2006

turbodano

Here is a back to back on a dodge Neon that is still using mostly stock parts. This is back to back against the GT3076R.

ZacCarter

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Got any compressor maps of the two?

turbodano

Next what else would you guy's like to see?

Oooooppppss I almost forgot to tell ya that the turbo comes polished from front to back and it comes with a stainless steel turbine housing.

ZacCarter

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Thing is a hug block of metal, whats the msrp on these turds.

turbodano

We got maps here are the 2 most popular ones we carry. Look at the S258 it has a 80% eff. island. How many turbos have you seen that are this efficient.

The ETT50 trim supports 58 lbs a minute and the S258 supports 62lbs a minute.

turbodano

I didn't see you guy's from Pheonix turbo on here. I think you are a Borg Warner dealer. If you are you will be able to buy these product with our parts on them from Borg real soon. Please talk to Jim O about getting you info on them. Right now Borg Warner is doing burst and containment testing on them and getting ready to release them into thier performance catalog. We are hoping they will be in the BW catalog by spring time.

CRXDrew

I always wondered why Bullseyepower hasn't represented itself more prominantly on this site. "The Turbo Trader", one of their distributors definitely helps alot in the Holset thread.

Suprdave

Wow...I'm so sick of you guys comparing your turbos to Garrett Turbos @ different PSI.

How can you compare your turbo to a GT30 at LESS Boost and talk about how awesome it is?? This is just like that S300 vs T67 Test where the S300 or whatever was running 5 more pounds of boost and you were bragging about the torque difference...how bout some Objective Testing?

Justin Olson

The S200 is running more boost throughout the rev range. If boost was equal, you would have a better test. Who's to say the gains seen from the S200 aren't attributed to the 1psi more boost it was running.

It does spool marginally quicker then the gt3076r tho.

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ZacCarter

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow...I'm so sick of you guys comparing your turbos to Garrett Turbos @ different PSI.

How can you compare your turbo to a GT30 at LESS Boost and talk about how awesome it is?? This is just like that S300 vs T67 Test where the S300 or whatever was running 5 more pounds of boost and you were bragging about the torque difference...how bout some Objective Testing? </TD></TR></TABLE>That's what I am getting at.

093turbo16

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Took the words right out of my mouth. Even though the spool time is a marginally quicker, it looks as though the peak power would be very similar is the boost was the same.

turbodano

We were not saying that this is a full series back to back test. It literally was just 2 turbos on the same car and showing the dyno results between the two, using the car and its internals as a control. Please don't get all puffy on us over sharing info, as we are simply trying to inform many people about choices that are available in the turbo market. It's somewhat difficult to inform anyone if all people are going to do is immediately bash something simply because they may not be sure how it performs. That's exactly why I'm trying to put out as much statistical data as possible. As far as the GT30 and the ETT 50 trim there is a .7 pound split. In all honesty, how much more hp can .7 of a pound be, when you look at the larger spectrum of things?

Hope you get well soon.
BTW
The way our web guy put that original dyno on the site was never to show a fair comparision between the 2 turbos. Even I can see that. It just shows a turbo with a 56mm inducer making power on a Integra and we wanted to over lay the power curve. If you look at the info for what it is worth you can see that there is a lot more usable torque with the smaller turbo over the larger unit. That's all I'm trying to say.

Peace brother

The T67 makes good power and is a very popular unit with the Supra crowd no one is taking that away from the unit. The T67 was made back in the early 80's and the Extended tip stuff came out in early 2002. There is a lot of new technoligy that has came out since the release of the T67.

If it will makes you feel better I will remove the info from the site. I see that you are having a problem with the info. Next time there is somthing that we are doing that is getting in your crawl just pick up the phone and give us a call and we can discuss over any issues that you have about it. We are not trying to mislead anyone like other companies are with the ball bearing stuff.


Do you know the original design purpose of the dual ball bearing applications? It was not made for gas applications or the performance market.

Tchleung

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow...I'm so sick of you guys comparing your turbos to Garrett Turbos @ different PSI.

How can you compare your turbo to a GT30 at LESS Boost and talk about how awesome it is?? This is just like that S300 vs T67 Test where the S300 or whatever was running 5 more pounds of boost and you were bragging about the torque difference...how bout some Objective Testing? </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Olson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The S200 is running more boost throughout the rev range. If boost was equal, you would have a better test. Who's to say the gains seen from the S200 aren't attributed to the 1psi more boost it was running.

It does spool marginally quicker then the gt3076r tho.

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Exactly, yet in their first post they say:

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If you are going to say that, then post dyno charts of turbos at different psi, that is very misleading IMO

turbodano

Super Dave would you like to do some testing for us so people can see what you have to say about the latest and great turbo tech from Borg Warner.

Tchleung

turbodano: What Turbine was used on the GT3076? .63 or the .82? standard non divided? Looking at the dyno charts on the itnegra, those look very similarto a GT30R with the smaller .63 housing spool wise and top end.

turbodano

It is .7 of a pound difference a boost controller will float little bit. How much more help is .7 of a pound? Lets get some other dynos and look to see what difference .7 of a pound makes. Take the info for what it is worth.

When I get the back to back that Chris Rado did for us since he has the nicest boost controller on the market we will see a back to back test at the same boost level. The numbers he gave me on his road race Scion was 310whp/312wtq@12 psi on the GT30 and the ETT50trim made 337whp/352wtq@12psi. The boost on his car was the same and the numbers were drastically different.

I don't know if you have ever met Chris Rado, this guy tells it like it is, he does not lie for anyone not even his mother.

turbodano

I am not 100% sure but I think it was the .63 a/r.