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Old 06-14-2004, 08:39 PM
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Default Built motor, but missing intake manifold...which one to finish it with

I been searching on H-t about jg, skunk2 and aebs. I come up with so many different setups. I have a stock one but I rather put a after market one since that is about the last thing i need. The setup consist of:

ls vtec 83mm
manley rods
cp 9:1 pistons
benson sleeves
supertech springs
supertech retainers
gsr cams
skunk 2 cam gears
sc61 turbo
revhard manifold
tial 38mm wastegate
intake manifold(?????)

I seen post that the jg made people loose low end.
I am looking for 400whp. I am not looking to spend 1,000 on a endyn intake carbon fiber manifold either. Is jg the one for me, skunk2 or aebs??? Is there any problems with fitment when you put one of these on

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you can make 400 on stock mani easily
Old 06-14-2004, 08:59 PM
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I do have a 99-00 si manifold. For some people that do not know, it does not have the tap and hole for the IAT(intake air temp sensor). It goes on the charge pipe on 99-00 si's. I was thinking for save trouble of tapping it. I could get a aftermarket intake manifold and also it will have it already tapped for the sensor.

I am just looking for one that will not disappoint me

From what I read, they say the stock intake manifold is real restrictive on n/a and more on turbo'd motors
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You could try porting the Si mani.
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just use a type R manifold..
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Use the JG because its priced right, perfect for a turbo, Stronger than any sheetmetal intake, and the plenum is large enough to see big gains in an LSVTEC 83mm engine compared to ITR Intake Plenum...Not to mention the ITR was really designed for a high revving N/A motor where the Edelbrock is designed primarily for a turbo motor...
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he said he didnt want to use a JG..one thats why i suggested an itr...^
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Default Re: Built motor, but missing intake manifold...which one to finish it with (Sunrise City Rider)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sunrise City Rider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Use the JG because its priced right, perfect for a turbo, Stronger than any sheetmetal intake, and the plenum is large enough to see big gains in an LSVTEC 83mm engine compared to ITR Intake Plenum...Not to mention the ITR was really designed for a high revving N/A motor where the Edelbrock is designed primarily for a turbo motor...</TD></TR></TABLE>

someone has been doing some research!
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yes the JG mani is good but for this guys setup it is not neccesary and will not restrict this guy from his power goals..is cheaper, and will not sacrifise any low end while cruising out of boost,though that is minimal..
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Default Re: Built motor, but missing intake manifold...which one to finish it with (bruceleeroy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bruceleeroy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he said he didnt want to use a JG..one thats why i suggested an itr...^</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldnt have no problem with the jg. If I will not lose tq or power. I will go with it.
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what are you revving to? the JG is designed to make peak power between 7k-9k rpms. With stock redline i would go with skunk2 or a ported ITR manifold, more midrange
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Probably more like 8500. More likely were my power stop producing at which I wont know till dyno time.
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I have a bit more aggressive setup and i'm going with a 64mm t/b matching a skunk2 manifold. I've seen the skunk2 mani's work wonders on turbo cars.
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Default Re: Built motor, but missing intake manifold...which one to finish it with (Mpir3)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are you revving to? the JG is designed to make peak power between 7k-9k rpms. With stock redline i would go with skunk2 or a ported ITR manifold, more midrange </TD></TR></TABLE>

What Mpir3 said! The JG/Edelbrock Victor X is designed for 7k-10k rpms. You need to go to at least 9k for this mani to benefit you IMO. A Skunk2 or ITR is Perfect for anything less or up to 9k. If 400whp is wanted then The S2 or ITR again. If 500whp or more go JG/Edelbrock. Good luck. Oh I made 370whp with a Skunk2 on my B16A and was great, when I was shooting for 500whp I got the JG/Edelbrock. My friend has an LS/VTEC 84.5mm bore only revving to about 8500 with the JG/Edelbrock and his is falling off up top, I think due to the small turbo and inefficient IC though. When he decides to rev to 9k+ the JG will become beneficial IMO. Others may have diff experiences though. Food for thought another car same turbo set up ITR 81.5mm bore made 375whp where as his made 360ish.
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Default Re: Built motor, but missing intake manifold...which one to finish it with (Boostfed)

THanks for that info Boostfed and the rest of the people on this thread. I think I found the one I am going to go with.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What Mpir3 said! The JG/Edelbrock Victor X is designed for 7k-10k rpms. You need to go to at least 9k for this mani to benefit you IMO. A Skunk2 or ITR is Perfect for anything less or up to 9k. If 400whp is wanted then The S2 or ITR again. If 500whp or more go JG/Edelbrock. Good luck. Oh I made 370whp with a Skunk2 on my B16A and was great, when I was shooting for 500whp I got the JG/Edelbrock. My friend has an LS/VTEC 84.5mm bore only revving to about 8500 with the JG/Edelbrock and his is falling off up top, I think due to the small turbo and inefficient IC though. When he decides to rev to 9k+ the JG will become beneficial IMO. Others may have diff experiences though. Food for thought another car same turbo set up ITR 81.5mm bore made 375whp where as his made 360ish. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Default Re: Built motor, but missing intake manifold...which one to finish it with (bruceleeroy)

That's all good info.

BTW, if your username is bruceleeroy, then why is your avatar a picture of Bruce Lee? Shouldn't it be a picture of that guy from Barry Gordy's The Last Dragon?
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Default Re: Built motor, but missing intake manifold...which one to finish it with (rochesterricer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rochesterricer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's all good info.

BTW, if your username is bruceleeroy, then why is your avatar a picture of Bruce Lee? Shouldn't it be a picture of that guy from Barry Gordy's The Last Dragon?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol...naw i like this one.. ..that movie is the **** though
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WHO IS THE MASTA!!!
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skunk2 is great for street applications making from 150-over 400whp.
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