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Old 05-12-2006, 10:19 PM
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Default breack out like iF i was running open BoosT

I just finish putting my turbo kit and im running Chippped P28 ECU and FMU, stock injector, stock Spack plugs ...
Is A GSR Motor, Is running on 9psi...

Problem : once im in 9psi for like 2sec the car start to break out it Back fire nasty, and it trows a cloud of black smoke...
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Is not on open boost cus the Gauge says 9si and it stays there...
But it feels like i was,

Whats Wrong with my car how do I fix This


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Old 05-12-2006, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (GDM93Si)

is your car tuned
Old 05-12-2006, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (Fitti (Godzilla))

No is not tunned. but i seen a lot of people running FMU's and their car dont break out like if they were about to blow...

Need HelP
Old 05-12-2006, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (GDM93Si)

I would say get the car tuned 1st.

But since you are probably not going to do that you may need to change your spark plugs.

You will need to run a few step colder NGK -7 or colder Spark plug and adjust the gap. You should run the normal heat range plug and close the gap on them a little.
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (Fitti (Godzilla))

ThX.. a lot..
any one else has anything different to say
Old 05-13-2006, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (GDM93Si)

what chip are you running?
Old 05-13-2006, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (hermsfab.com)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hermsfab.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what chip are you running?</TD></TR></TABLE>

that and will it work with the fmu?
are you hitting boost cut? there are a lot of things it could be.
Old 05-13-2006, 08:34 AM
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Is a little Spoon Chip,
the ECU is chipped for like Stock like VTec at 4600 and Red line at 9200..
But not For Boost..

Now the FMU Should Be working My last car i had the FMU and it was Fine it didnt do this Gay Shyt.

It stops at 9psi at like 2 to 3sec on being at 9psi thats when It starts To Brack Out Really Bad like the motor is going to blow....

Could It be the Spack Plugs I have NGK Irridium 11

Need HELP
Old 05-13-2006, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (GDM93Si)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GDM93Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is a little Spoon Chip,
the ECU is chipped for like Stock like VTec at 4600 and Red line at 9200..
But not For Boost..

Now the FMU Should Be working My last car i had the FMU and it was Fine it didnt do this Gay Shyt.

It stops at 9psi at like 2 to 3sec on being at 9psi thats when It starts To Brack Out Really Bad like the motor is going to blow....

Could It be the Spack Plugs I have NGK Irridium 11

Need HELP </TD></TR></TABLE>

So your saying your chip is a spoon chip with a stock program??/ B/c most of those chips have the fuel extremely rich and all kinds of timing advance b/c they are mean to be run on a N/A car. Between the chip and the FMU im sure your injectors are maxed out and your dumpng way to much fuel. Get uberdata and tuned ASAP
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (b16adx)

Thx Any one got the same point of view.. Thats posible it trows out a lot of black smoke
Old 05-13-2006, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (GDM93Si)

a spoon chip probably has a good bit of timming in it. and the fmu definately isnt helping at all. it is like putting a bandaid over a compound fracture.

loose the chip, loose the fmu, get a good set of injectors, and get some good e.m.s. or get 99lspwr to tune what you have.

j/k frank you know i love you.
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (boostedcivicsir)

The MAP sensor is seeing positive pressure and you need a missing link/ check valves to make the FMU setup work "correctly". Although, as a tuner I highly reccomend against the FMU/Missing link setup if you're going to run it at lest get a BTM and save your motor. Oh yeah, and ditch the "Spoon chip" for an OE program/ECU. I can burn you one if needed. Good luck. Look into some other engine managment when you get a chance. It'll only take one engine failure to change your mind but, I'm trying to help before you learn the hard way

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaguyef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The MAP sensor is seeing positive pressure and you need a missing link/ check valves to make the FMU setup work "correctly". Although, as a tuner I highly reccomend against the FMU/Missing link setup if you're going to run it at lest get a BTM and save your motor. Oh yeah, and ditch the "Spoon chip" for an OE program/ECU. I can burn you one if needed. Good luck. Look into some other engine managment when you get a chance. It'll only take one engine failure to change your mind but, I'm trying to help before you learn the hard way

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damn phil, how did i forget that. i assumed with a chipped ecu it was configured for boost. me
Old 05-13-2006, 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

damn phil, how did i forget that. i assumed with a chipped ecu it was configured for boost. me</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, I'm the **** .
Old 05-13-2006, 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaguyef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yep, I'm the **** . </TD></TR></TABLE>

alright alright, if you are so bad why was it my idea to cut the water bottle and make it into a funnel?
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alright alright, if you are so bad why was it my idea to cut the water bottle and make it into a funnel? </TD></TR></TABLE>

That was Dan that didn't get it I agreed w/ you
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaguyef &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That was Dan that didn't get it I agreed w/ you </TD></TR></TABLE>

all good man. g/l at MIR next weekend. i ordered some 8's this week in iridium, we are gonna put some timming to it and see what she does. take care man. call me and keep me posted.
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Default Re: breack out like iF i was running open BoosT (GDM93Si)

Going Off topic...

Got Good news I fix the problem I go Some NGK's 7's and the car is running perfect...
Well preaty good for not being tunned And with a wack Chip And A FMU...

Thx A lot Guys Just so you guys now i am going to tune the car on monday with Crome!!!

Thx All.....
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its gunna blow if you run an fmu and a spoon chip, i bet it advances the crap outta the timing and it will cause detonation and melt something...
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