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Old 10-15-2008, 09:43 AM
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Default Boosted b16a2 made 360whp @ 17 psi = Junk Motor

this is what happens when you dont do a blockgaurd in and push too much boost.. Time to sleeve the bee and make more power.. Check it out
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:35 AM
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that sucks! but i doubt it was the sleeves fault! im almost making that much power on a STOCK block with no problems.
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Default Re: Boosted b16a2 made 360whp @ 17 psi = Junk Motor (SinglecamMitch)

What were your afr's

Seems like a lean condition or ignition because you cracked two sleeves at the the same time!

What injectors and ecm!
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If you would have used a block guard, you probably would have cracked the sleeve anyway. People think they solve this, but in reality, they dont help as much as one would think...

If you have a dyno graph with your AFRs, you should post it up
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Agreed.

Blockguards are no replacement for a good tune, common sense and a wideband.


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Did you get it tuned?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ExVtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Agreed.

Blockguards are no replacement for a good tune, common sense and a wideband.


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I have the first 2, but i dont run a wideband in my car. I trust that my tuner does everything the right way...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have the first 2, but i dont run a wideband in my car. I trust that my tuner does everything the right way...</TD></TR></TABLE>

same here
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something abnormal happened in the combustion events, 360whp stock everything happens on the daily, you have quality forged internals, i think your tune sucks, somethings not right at that power level. The combustion chambers and domes of the piston say it all
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YEAH THAT IS CLEARLY A POOR TUNED CAR, STOCK SLEEVES ARENT EVEN CLOSE TO STRESSED AT 360WHP, THE LOG MANIFOLD LOOKS TO BE A CULPRIT TOO
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damn! id try to go with another tuner..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by irishflame27 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">YEAH THAT IS CLEARLY A POOR TUNED CAR, STOCK SLEEVES ARENT EVEN CLOSE TO STRESSED AT 360WHP, <U>THE LOG MANIFOLD LOOKS TO BE A CULPRIT TOO</U></TD></TR></TABLE>

Please elaborate on that statement.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by irishflame27 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">THE LOG MANIFOLD LOOKS TO BE A CULPRIT TOO</TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont think the manifold is really going to do a whole lot to crack a sleeve...sure the power created could be higher if he ran something else, but even with 50+whp he's not really treading on thin ice as far as those sleeves are concerned...
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680cc injectors on crome
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Well, a/f's look consistent enough, so it appears to have been ignition related or fuel system related possibly. I know people might chime in about Crome ignition issues, but if your familiar with Crome your aware of it and it really isn't a concern.

Did you run the car with a low amount of gas in the tank, run stock heat range plugs, or anything like that? Post the crome bin file or a screen shot of the maps.
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i was running 9s for plugs and i am going to upgrade to hondata s300 for the next motor
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SinglecamMitch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was running 9s for plugs and i am going to upgrade to hondata s300 for the next motor</TD></TR></TABLE>

9s on 360whp?
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I dont know if that's the sole cause of the problem, but you should have been using BKR7e's or something similar...
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should have been using like 11 u think
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i was thinking maybe i should be running 11s?
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i made 342 at 8psi on a stock motor.. why so much boost ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SinglecamMitch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinking maybe i should be running 11s?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you mean plugs with that gap, definately not. Thats a .044" gap, terrible for boost. You'd want about .032" at the most, since most people here run between .026-.030". If you were running some oddball plug that wasn't cold enough, you could have ended up with some detonation. Any bit of detionation will eventualy kill the motor if it happens enough.

BTW don't resleeve the B16 block. Spend not even 10% more and get a sleeved B18 block. B16's for boys, B18's for men. Period.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i made 342 at 8psi on a stock motor.. why so much boost ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

He's probably running a different turbo...not all setups make the same power at the same boost level
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

He's probably running a different turbo...not all setups make the same power at the same boost level</TD></TR></TABLE>ya i thought about that... but forgot to ask what turbo LOL ..


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