TypRice

oh here is the deal, my buddy called full race today, he had some questions, anyway...

we started talking about black gaurds, an stock sleeves, they said they run their own cars with no block gaurd, STOCK sleeve, and say they are making over 600WHP and have been running the car for over 3 years like this....

im personaly sleeved, but they told my boy, they dont recomend block gaurds, they told him its more benificial to take it out...

what yall think??!?!?!?!?

i dont agree!


Modified by TypRice at 8:57 PM 2/15/2006

redzcstandardhatch

properly installed, a good blockgaurd will be fine.

stock sleeves are much stronger than people used to imagine.

detonation kills sleeves, not cylinder pressure.

tONE.steR

If you don't agree then don't listen to them. Run the block guard.

Why do you care what other people think? Whose motor is it?

Its the builders preference, not a law. lol.

LSTEG96

id listen to full race... i mean DuDe ThEy'Re GoInG To bE oN PINKS!


no but really full race is the ****. listen.

boostedcivicsir

jeff evns told me for a friend no block guard as well.

Andrea

My car is making over 600whp on stock sleeves. No block guard. If the sleeve is going to crack, it's going to crack. The block guard will keep the sleeve from buckling outward at the top. If you split a sleeve, you've most likely ruined the piston skirt and rings, so what did the block guard accomplish? We've built 20-30 engines over the past year and all but two were running stock sleeves. None of them had a block guard and none of them had any issues.

You obviously called Full Race for a reason (perhaps you know the kind of work they do). Why would you call for their opinion and advice only to completely disregard it?

blackeg

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first hand experience at it's finest

im also anti block guard. i did crack a sleeve, but it woulda happend regardless

TypRice

my boy called i was just there, i dont give a **** what they say....i have a sleeved block, so it doesnt apply to me,

im making enough power to keep me happy!

DRIVENRacing

newb

UncleD

iTrader: (2)

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97turbols

I have heard that block guards have a tendency to oval the cylinders because they expand at a different rate than the sleeves. I don't have any experience with that so I am not a hundred percent sure.

stealthmode62

This guy I know talked to John Force and John Force said he drinks powerade before the race and it helps him win races. I think this is bullshit. What do you guys think?

turbolshatch

no its true i too drink powerade and it works

stealthmode62

got dyno charts?

Arturbo

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My boi says the same thing too!

abnaasefmb

true story putting poweraid in your tank will rise the octane. i think art had a dyno making over 600hp in an old post. art still got that dyno chart?

Arturbo

Only in Utah tho.

abnaasefmb

my bad

Weq

blockgaurds are bad, mmk.
they do nothing but f*ck with the thermal properties of the engine.

SOHCD16y8

Ive been with and w/o a block guard, save yourself the 90 bucks, there not doing ****.

NightRiderS2K

You know it's really him that called...


Why can't your "boi" post in here?

2point2

Is this the result of random phone calls regaurding block gaurds?

soon2beB00stedSOL

I have a block that I got from a friend. It has a block guard in it already. how can I take it out? I tried sticking a thin screwdriver in one of the holes, and prying t out, but I'm afraid to mess something up. Any suggestions?

integrabuddy

if it was properly installed it should have been welded in

UncleD

iTrader: (2)

Nice sleeve Make sure you wipe that manifold down good before you fire the engine though