Bisimoto's 1st full Turbo build: Quest for 700whp D16Z WagoVan
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Man I want that manifold.
Build looks amazing.
Wish I could afford one of your cams.
Another ?, do you see maybe doing a comparison of camshafts?
Like urs against crowers bigger turbo cam?
Or something like that.
Build looks amazing.
Wish I could afford one of your cams.
Another ?, do you see maybe doing a comparison of camshafts?
Like urs against crowers bigger turbo cam?
Or something like that.
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Good stuff Bisi!!! Its lookin way sick! Glad you spent some time on the bling area
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By all means, my staff and I will provide good updates..stay tuned.
Yes, many updates to come in regard to paint, suspension, lip(s), interior, et cetera.
lol...you are such a bad influence, Sheepey!
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I used to be a All-Motor-All-The-Time guy too...then I started building turbo projects, switched up from building headers to turbo manifolds, etc. I heard a lot of "sell out" comments, lost some I thought loyal customers...bottom line is Versatility. I do not regret my transition to turbo performance at all. And those that have stuck by me get to reep the benefits of a well rounded import performance fabricator/tech. I have a equal level of respect for both markets.
Bisi has always been one of my idols, and this project and the rumors of things to come only furthers my respect and admiration toward him and his crew. Excellent work!
Bisi has always been one of my idols, and this project and the rumors of things to come only furthers my respect and admiration toward him and his crew. Excellent work!
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what kind of fuel are you gonna be running to make 700hp and what are the specs on that turbo
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i'm officially scared to see what you guys come up with lmao
but without a doubt its going to be one bad machine!!
but without a doubt its going to be one bad machine!!
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DANG, i'm syked for the updates. this is gunna be sooooo sick. and yah i wish i could afford one of them cams
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super clean motor bisi thing look amasing cant wait to see it all together and running
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Seen the article in Super Street a while back... Seeing it more now, looks even more promising.
If you don't mind me asking, what is that coating on the exhaust housing of the turbo?
If you don't mind me asking, what is that coating on the exhaust housing of the turbo?
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Head looks great :O)
Dig the COP
Build is clean.... But that manifold... meh.... Wastegate placement and routing is retarded.... TS housing, divided collector to completely uneven runners to the (single)gate??? Why? It appears the runners are paired right for the divided collector (Hard to tell in the pic), but was there a reason you didnt run twin gates.. Or give the gate better priority (Seeing as how there is only one? Also that gate looks SUSPECT... LOL). Even if the merge is really really close to the gate, the runners are... well Ill just say Id have hoped for more from you guys in the manifold area... and the downpipe... with all the money being thrown at it..
I KNOW you dont expect that trans to last more than 2 pulls :O)
Interested in numbers...
Dig the COP
Build is clean.... But that manifold... meh.... Wastegate placement and routing is retarded.... TS housing, divided collector to completely uneven runners to the (single)gate??? Why? It appears the runners are paired right for the divided collector (Hard to tell in the pic), but was there a reason you didnt run twin gates.. Or give the gate better priority (Seeing as how there is only one? Also that gate looks SUSPECT... LOL). Even if the merge is really really close to the gate, the runners are... well Ill just say Id have hoped for more from you guys in the manifold area... and the downpipe... with all the money being thrown at it..
I KNOW you dont expect that trans to last more than 2 pulls :O)
Interested in numbers...
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So this 3.6 cam... has it been R&Ded or is it just some shaft you pulled out of your ***? Rumor has it you've stated previously about your D series "turbo" cams some things to the effect of "I honestly don't know how they perform. I've sold a few but have not heard anything back about them." Now I'm under the impression that your NA cams are R&Ded and your "turbo" cams aren't, they're just churned out with high lift and not much duration and overlap because that's the general theory on how turbo cams should be. I've seen numerous dyno sheets using your 1.2 cams and the engines are actually making less power and torque than the same setup with a stock cam... They just can't seem to break the 300hp mark without absurd boost pressure levels.
Also is this 3.6 cam a retail piece or is it for strictly in-house use only?
Also is this 3.6 cam a retail piece or is it for strictly in-house use only?
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That's pretty much what I've surmised.
The super mild idles like stock cam you ground for AFAccord's NA F23A1 made a huge increase in power, close to 15 whp on a nothing special setup, and he took it back to the dyno without me to tune it. From the vehicle's powerband the cam was obviously too advanced. There's a lot more in there. And this was a super mild grind because Jason didn't want to buy springs/retainers. That's freaking impressive.
OTOH, I and several of my friends have been saddled with, or saddled with tuning, your turbo grinds that are super awesome after the fashion of 90-91 LS automatic cams, in that nobody can break 300. I never got a chance to swap back to the stocker, but I know two people who did and reaped better spool, power, and trap times. It's generally been a dissappointment.
BTW, 9:1 CR is awfully high for that build. You need some amount of combustion chamber to fit all that airmass into without creating blowby problems as D16s are small bore motors.
Anyway, good luck with it.
The super mild idles like stock cam you ground for AFAccord's NA F23A1 made a huge increase in power, close to 15 whp on a nothing special setup, and he took it back to the dyno without me to tune it. From the vehicle's powerband the cam was obviously too advanced. There's a lot more in there. And this was a super mild grind because Jason didn't want to buy springs/retainers. That's freaking impressive.
OTOH, I and several of my friends have been saddled with, or saddled with tuning, your turbo grinds that are super awesome after the fashion of 90-91 LS automatic cams, in that nobody can break 300. I never got a chance to swap back to the stocker, but I know two people who did and reaped better spool, power, and trap times. It's generally been a dissappointment.
BTW, 9:1 CR is awfully high for that build. You need some amount of combustion chamber to fit all that airmass into without creating blowby problems as D16s are small bore motors.
Anyway, good luck with it.
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I used to be a All-Motor-All-The-Time guy too...then I started building turbo projects, switched up from building headers to turbo manifolds, etc. I heard a lot of "sell out" comments, lost some I thought loyal customers...bottom line is Versatility. I do not regret my transition to turbo performance at all. And those that have stuck by me get to reep the benefits of a well rounded import performance fabricator/tech. I have a equal level of respect for both markets.
Bisi has always been one of my idols, and this project and the rumors of things to come only furthers my respect and admiration toward him and his crew. Excellent work!
Bisi has always been one of my idols, and this project and the rumors of things to come only furthers my respect and admiration toward him and his crew. Excellent work!
Of course not, Sir Bone. Nemo will stay n/a...for now.lol. I just may need a driver, but I cannot afford you..lol.
Head looks great :O)
Dig the COP
Build is clean.... But that manifold... meh.... Wastegate placement and routing is retarded.... TS housing, divided collector to completely uneven runners to the (single)gate??? Why? It appears the runners are paired right for the divided collector (Hard to tell in the pic), but was there a reason you didnt run twin gates.. Or give the gate better priority (Seeing as how there is only one? Also that gate looks SUSPECT... LOL). Even if the merge is really really close to the gate, the runners are... well Ill just say Id have hoped for more from you guys in the manifold area... and the downpipe... with all the money being thrown at it..
I KNOW you dont expect that trans to last more than 2 pulls :O)
Interested in numbers...
Dig the COP
Build is clean.... But that manifold... meh.... Wastegate placement and routing is retarded.... TS housing, divided collector to completely uneven runners to the (single)gate??? Why? It appears the runners are paired right for the divided collector (Hard to tell in the pic), but was there a reason you didnt run twin gates.. Or give the gate better priority (Seeing as how there is only one? Also that gate looks SUSPECT... LOL). Even if the merge is really really close to the gate, the runners are... well Ill just say Id have hoped for more from you guys in the manifold area... and the downpipe... with all the money being thrown at it..
I KNOW you dont expect that trans to last more than 2 pulls :O)
Interested in numbers...
When I designed this manifold, I began with a clean slate, using stepped primaries and a single gate that works amazingly well. There is no surprise that in the manifold arena that the prototype would look different from what others are accustomed too, as we always think out of the box.
On this one, trust me, it works verrrrrrrrrrrrrry well....and the trans will too...at least on the dyno.lol
So this 3.6 cam... has it been R&Ded or is it just some shaft you pulled out of your ***? Rumor has it you've stated previously about your D series "turbo" cams some things to the effect of "I honestly don't know how they perform. I've sold a few but have not heard anything back about them." Now I'm under the impression that your NA cams are R&Ded and your "turbo" cams aren't, they're just churned out with high lift and not much duration and overlap because that's the general theory on how turbo cams should be. I've seen numerous dyno sheets using your 1.2 cams and the engines are actually making less power and torque than the same setup with a stock cam... They just can't seem to break the 300hp mark without absurd boost pressure levels.
Also is this 3.6 cam a retail piece or is it for strictly in-house use only?
Also is this 3.6 cam a retail piece or is it for strictly in-house use only?
The level 1.2 is exactly what is is, a mild, idle friendly turbo camshaft. The level 2.4 is a notch up, and one of our best sellers with a slightly lopey idle, and the new level 3.6 is a very aggressive profile, with an idle that is not for the faint of heart. Custom applications are also provided for those who desire profiles, inbetween. I hope that helps.
This is a very exciting build, and I am pleased that I pursued this goal.
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I used to be a All-Motor-All-The-Time guy too...then I started building turbo projects, switched up from building headers to turbo manifolds, etc. I heard a lot of "sell out" comments, lost some I thought loyal customers...bottom line is Versatility. I do not regret my transition to turbo performance at all. And those that have stuck by me get to reep the benefits of a well rounded import performance fabricator/tech. I have a equal level of respect for both markets.
Bisi has always been one of my idols, and this project and the rumors of things to come only furthers my respect and admiration toward him and his crew. Excellent work!
Bisi has always been one of my idols, and this project and the rumors of things to come only furthers my respect and admiration toward him and his crew. Excellent work!
end of ramble. keep up the good work. cant wait to see what you got cooked up for this build