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Old 09-24-2015, 10:08 AM
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Like the title states, trying to see what the biggest turbo is someone ran while keeping Ac on a ramhorn. I have a gt35r I plan on using and it clears no problem but someone has a comp triple ball bearing 67/72 custom turbo for a good deal locally and wondering if it would fit, I wouldn't mind notching the block either, I already have my downpipe and everything. If it would fit I would make the switch.

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Anything that fits inside the platform available to you. I'm assuming your T3 so PTE 6766. Issue is with an ac ramhorn check with manufacture of it allows vband housings or only 5 bolt. That'll be a big limiting factor. If vband allowed a .82 or 1.06 at t3 will go a long way. Forced performance sells the super 99 which is a 72mm t3 turbo capable of 1000hp

Why looking for the biggest possible turbo? Properly sized turbocharger will benefit you further than a big laggy turbo. What's the goals of the car
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Anything that fits inside the platform available to you. I'm assuming your T3 so PTE 6766. Issue is with an ac ramhorn check with manufacture of it allows vband housings or only 5 bolt. That'll be a big limiting factor. If vband allowed a .82 or 1.06 at t3 will go a long way. Forced performance sells the super 99 which is a 72mm t3 turbo capable of 1000hp

Why looking for the biggest possible turbo? Properly sized turbocharger will benefit you further than a big laggy turbo. What's the goals of the car
for future reference. if a 72mm will fit with the correct housing and vband option then it would help me to figure out a 67mm would work as well. the turbo is a custom comp 67/72 T3 flange vband hotside. didn't say if it was .82 or anything. plans are 800+ eventually but it was new 1,900. has about 1k miles tops & spools fairly quick. I would be happy with 500hp street car on that turbo. kid currently has around 400 hp on it but just fried the rings in his motor so hes parting out his whole setup
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for future reference. if a 72mm will fit with the correct housing and vband option then it would help me to figure out a 67mm would work as well. the turbo is a custom comp 67/72 T3 flange vband hotside. didn't say if it was .82 or anything. plans are 800+ eventually but it was new 1,900. has about 1k miles tops & spools fairly quick. I would be happy with 500hp street car on that turbo. kid currently has around 400 hp on it but just fried the rings in his motor so hes parting out his whole setup
if u do go for 800 HP you wont need A/C as it will no longer be a street car. 500 HP is already pushing the limits of the street
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if u do go for 800 HP you wont need A/C as it will no longer be a street car. 500 HP is already pushing the limits of the street
I realize that but since the car is built for the street at the moment if I could pick up this turbo for the deal hes giving on it & still be able to use it with ac then why not? future goals are to use my built motor in a different shell with a top mount setup and hood exit exhaust, etc... but im asking to see if anyone else did a big turbo while keeping AC.

My setup is as follows;

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Eventually will be getting Boost By Gear Setup but want to get the car running and tuned on low boost before I go make some changes such as some Pro 1 cams or GSC T1's down the road, 340lhp Fuel Pump, 1600cc Inj, -6an Fuel line from tank to front, Hondata CPR setup. Car is also going RHD down the road after the setup is all set and making 500+hp on pump with AC & PS.


Hoping for close to 400HP @ 12psi
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A Gt3582 for 400hp?

And what do you plan to start out making with that gigantic Comp turbo?
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The largest you can fit is a T04S cover. Many companies that utilize Garrett/Turbonetics styled platform go by the compressor cover itself. Which is about a T04S.

Here's an old picture of a T67 on Kooks-style Manifold made for A/C. We had to do so much grinding that the number plate had to be cut in order to fit. The webbing was completely down to where we almost thought that the block was compromised.


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Why not? simple you will have a horrible powerband for the street nothing but lag. But to each their own just trying to point you in the right direction
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Eventually will be getting Boost By Gear Setup but want to get the car running and tuned on low boost before I go make some changes such as some Pro 1 cams or GSC T1's down the road, 340lhp Fuel Pump, 1600cc Inj, -6an Fuel line from tank to front, Hondata CPR setup. Car is also going RHD down the road after the setup is all set and making 500+hp on pump with AC & PS.


Hoping for close to* @ 12psi
And I'll put $100 on a soccer mom with a Dodge Caravan to out-accelerate you the first 1000 feet with that kind of thinking.

























Better yet, on second thought, make it $200.
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And I'll put $100 on a soccer mom with a Dodge Caravan to out-accelerate you the first 1000 feet with that kind of thinking.
I mean, I obviously understand what you and everyone else means, but at the same time I think high hp laggy builds are little too harshly trashed on. Now, I'm still new to this and the fastest car I believe I've ever been in was an (s?)4 with 3 people in it.... yeah so I have no idea what it feels like to be fast.

With gearing he'll still get into that power band very quicly, even with ls gears (depending on the speed obviously).
And with going from no torque to like v8 status in a split second would probably give him a good kick in the pants. I dunno, it seems like it could be fun (sometimes)
I understand why wider powerbands are superior, however.
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I mean, I obviously understand what you and everyone else means, but at the same time I think high hp laggy builds are little too harshly trashed on. Now, I'm still new to this and the fastest car I believe I've ever been in was an (s?)4 with 3 people in it.... yeah so I have no idea what it feels like to be fast.

With gearing he'll still get into that power band very quicly, even with ls gears (depending on the speed obviously).
And with going from no torque to like v8 status in a split second would probably give him a good kick in the pants. I dunno, it seems like it could be fun (sometimes)
I understand why wider powerbands are superior, however.
It should be scrutinized harshly. They are hard to control, gearing is irrelevant with something that late in the powerband..

This had been known for over 20 years. But young people come into the scene every 5 or so years trying to re-invent the wheel about this phenomenon..only for history to repeat itself..how soon they forget :-(
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It should be scrutinized harshly. They are hard to control, gearing is irrelevant with something that late in the powerband..

This had been known for over 20 years. But young people come into the scene every 5 or so years trying to re-invent the wheel about this phenomenon..only for history to repeat itself..how soon they forget :-(
I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm merely stating that there is still fun to be had with a not so usable but very powerful powerband

Derek seems to be having fun with it :

Yes I know the car is not a daily and used primarily for roll races
Yes I also see how hard it is to control
Ugh trying to figure out what your going to tell me before you do lol :p
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I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm merely stating that there is still fun to be had with a not so usable but very powerful powerband

Derek seems to be having fun with it : https://youtu.be/281m52Kz_BI?t=14

Yes I know the car is not a daily and used primarily for roll races
Yes I also see how hard it is to control
Ugh trying to figure out what your going to tell me before you do lol :p
What's fun to Derek wouldn't be fun to me. Plain and simple. you want to do it, be my guest. But the amount of time you would be doing it would not be worth the risk or investment of doing so.

What, you thought I never roll raced at a 140mph? I did it before YouTube even existed. 2 arrests, 7 points and a bunch of fines later.. I grew up and became an adult.. plain and simple.
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What's fun to Derek wouldn't be fun to me. Plain and simple. you want to do it, be my guest. But the amount of time you would be doing it would not be worth the risk or investment of doing so.

What, you thought I never roll raced at a 140mph? I did it before YouTube even existed. 2 arrests, 7 points and a bunch of fines later.. I grew up and became an adult.. plain and simple.
I personally don't think roll racing is that cool anyways... i'm canyon carver at heart (though I've had some scary close calls in that too :/)

Wow, i would've never thought you were such a trouble maker back in the day man haha.... even if it didn't really cause people trouble :p

You just really don't seem like the type of guy to do, well, anything like that lol. You're a very interesting man shodan, making me reconsider becoming and engineer again just so I can be smart and cool like you
Plus I'm good at math it's jus boring lol
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I personally don't think roll racing is that cool anyways... i'm canyon carver at heart (though I've had some scary close calls in that too :/)

Wow, i would've never thought you were such a trouble maker back in the day man haha.... even if it didn't really cause people trouble :p

You just really don't seem like the type of guy to do, well, anything like that lol. You're a very interesting man shodan, making me reconsider becoming and engineer again just so I can be smart and cool like you
Plus I'm good at math it's jus boring lol
I'm only decent at math because I can derive pretty well. Give me the right calculations to start, and I'll find anything. Otherwise, not that great myself.

As for thinking I didn't do that kind of stuff, well, that's how we become experienced in life... Starting off, doing dumb **** first.
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Lol. I said 400hp @ low boost. & I only had a Comp stage 3 clutch I had from my previous LS turbo build, tried selling it brand new in box for $285 and broke people trying to get it delivered for 250... Smh so I'm going to put it to use and see how it does.
Trust me when my fuel system is up to par & I get a stage 5 clutch I will gladly run 500+ on pump. 600+ e85 with Ac and power steering.

I'm building the car for my liking hence why I'm keeping my integra with the factory options it came with and working around it and not do like everyone else and rip everything out. Yeah maybe one day I'll pull it out and go top mount or I'll buy a junk shell and swap everything over.

I will gladly update people when it's all done. It's been a year of me building it and it's not coming out til next spring. Also the comp 67/72 sold so not a big deal. I had a 3076r before I decided to go a tad bigger with the 3582r. If I upgrade I will be getting a comp 6267. I'm 20 years old btw pretty sure I got a solid setup here and no corners cut. But thanks for all the info 👍🏼

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Lol. I said 400hp @ low boost. & I only had a Comp stage 3 clutch I had from my previous LS turbo build, tried selling it brand new in box for $285 and broke people trying to get it delivered for 250... Smh so I'm going to put it to use and see how it does.
Trust me when my fuel system is up to par & I get a stage 5 clutch I will gladly run 500+ on pump. 600+ e85 with Ac and power steering.

I'm building the car for my liking hence why I'm keeping my integra with the factory options it came with and working around it and not do like everyone else and rip everything out. Yeah maybe one day I'll pull it out and go top mount or I'll buy a junk shell and swap everything over.

I will gladly update people when it's all done. It's been a year of me building it and it's not coming out til next spring. Also the comp 67/72 sold so not a big deal. I had a 3076r before I decided to go a tad bigger with the 3582r. If I upgrade I will be getting a comp 6267. I'm 20 years old btw pretty sure I got a solid setup here and no corners cut. But thanks for all the info 👍🏼
mmmmkay. Yes. umm. sure. Good luck to you, of course.
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