igorka_91

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lol you call those sleves......its either be chepo and home made sleves and have a tought in the back of your head "whens this thing gonna blow" or build it right the first time and sleve it. Oh and reply to my massage.


i wouldnt even bother sleving a b20 block.......butt up to you...i would find a cheap gsr block with lets say mest up sleves....and get that sleved...it would be alot better.

igorka_91

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no...you gotta mix baking soda, powder, salt then poor it in..bake it in the oven...lol jk
Its likea block guard expecpt in a liquid state. once it cured it becomes rock solid. I tink its called "Revcon"

danielblushtein

I dont yet. I will try to find it. yes a member made his own sleeves and he is happy with the outcome.
I dont care what people say, getto....crap.....ricey, but if it works for me and its MUCH cheaper then I'm going for it.

danielblushtein

wont hurt to check this one out
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/tech_pr...block_posting/

danielblushtein

found it


http://hondaswap.com/general-tech-ar...filling-62903/

95-db6-719

a cheap gsr engine doesnt exist in colorado, i think i own the only one that no one in this state is using, a sleeved b20 engine has no difference from a sleeved gsr engine, except the vtec doesnt require a conversion kit. and the whole girdle thing. A main stud kit offers the same strength that the girdle does.

I have two extra engines and if something does fail which the only thing i coud see failing is a main bearing(which is highly unlikely with the mainstud kit) then o well tear it apart and replace whats needed.

To the guy that said i need bigger injectors for e85, i think the 1000cc are big enough, for 450 everyday. and they will prolly max out on the duty cycle at the high boost base map set for 600whp. e85 on average, when just swtiching out for e85 and running the previous 91 octane tune adds 30-40 whp at high boost. I have seen it countless times.

although yes its getting ERL sleeves and mainstud kit, i still have so much to prove on the wastegate, turbo, and log manifold, injectors we are using. I cant wait for the job to be done.

and for those that say my shop is over selling me and over promising me. I paid for 600 hp, so dont you think i will get 600 hp..? with a 450 low boost tune for everyday.

you dont go to the store buy something and its missing something and just say well that sucks. Please stop making comments about my performance shop, as they ran a 10.5 at a mile high on a e85 on a stock sleeved gsr, ran 11's in that motor previously stock bottom end and a ebay turbo kit. Made 220 horse with all honda parts in a lsv engine, currently hold the record for the most horse power on a stock 350 engine.

so yeah.. lol. i trust them.

95-db6-719

this would be a good school project, but my program is way to gay to attempt a race car build, which really sucks.
Why doesnt a company make a full length block guard so to speak that can be pressed in the water jacket that is cut out for water pump flow. and stuff.

danielblushtein

lol good idea. If only there was a way to actually sleeve a block for like $200-300, then everyone would do it.

LightningTeg

Because you're taking 2 different metals that expand at different rates and smashing them together. The only way to have it be reliable is having everything be from the same cast aka resleeving)

2k.civic.si

i know a few guys who have done this and it works great.

Bond

You have to remember it takes alot more E85 to make say 450HP then it would using 94 octane. You should really read up on E85. It has it's pros and cons too.

CDecker0218

How do you plan to make 600whp with a stage 4 clutch? unless I read something wrong. I didn't read the whole post either so incase your mentioned it already, then carry on

igorka_91

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Yup do it the cheap way. Butt if its cheap its not reliable. I beet if some one posted a DIY "home made high compresion piston" write up....you would hop on it like a mad man and recomend it to every one on HT lol. Its either build it right the first time or spend more $ fixing broken stuff l8tr. Im stiking to build it right the first time. Oh and reply to my masage. I wanna hear youre excuses again bouth the roush.

95-db6-719

Idk I have a stage 5 for my NA nitrious build so which ever needs it the most gets the stage 5. Also we are looking to push the car to 600 not run it everyday like that

danielblushtein

first of all this is my first time ever mentioning this to anyone ever

second, this dude was ready to run 600hp without any sleeves, so if he does a $50 sleeve job, its only going to benefit him, than running no sleeves at all.

OP talk to people that ACTUALLY did it. All these assumptions about how cheap it is is not going to get us anywhere.

VtecCarHauler

I've seen a piston and rod stock sleeve b20 do 450whp on 93oct. It can do 600whp with good parts and good tune. Someone has to do it! I remember everyone saying I should sleeve to do 550-600whp b18c in 2006. That was 2006 when running stock sleeves was not uncommon but still labeled unsafe. I did 550 on stock sleeves then I saw a lot more people pushing stock sleeves up to the 600's. No detonation No problems.

igorka_91

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Why even mention it to anyone.

I would invest the 50$ to more tuning time. and why putt a restriction to water flow were you need it the most. what kills a b20 the fastest- heat and detonation.

Im doing it right now except allmotor b20v 84.5x89 @ +/- 14 CR.

danielblushtein

dude your dumb this guy was ready to run no sleeves and my 2cents is not going to hurt a single bit.
Dont like it?.....dont run it....simple as that.

oh and this guy plans to run e85 which burns alot cooler. I read one guy ran without a radiator cuz he did not need it

igorka_91

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No reply to the other 2 statements lol

rev-speed

e85 is not near cold enuff to run without a radiator
we had cars on full methanol that still needs a radiator

-to the op
i hope u get close to ur goal!
-we had three stock block b20 vtec setups that made in the high 300s-low 400s

-also high three hundreds to low 400 is all a walbro 255 and 1000cc can do on e85(inline o44 setup/ methanol injection will be needed to get u there)

AlexDphoto

450 is possible with 1000s and a single walbro

95-db6-719

lets just say i cant wait to prove people wrong. not saying anyone is wrong. but we will push it to either the injectors cycle maxes out. but i saw a tc make 620 on 1000cc.

lets just wait and see, for those you havent read all the way through, we went with getting it sleeved as i dont want to have to tear into this engine again for a long time. lol. safe than sorry. also has room to grow.

rev-speed

not possible if u run low 11 a/f
not even with a base fuel pressure of 70psi

rev-speed

620 on a dynopack !

-even built motors break too.........
luck is also needed lol..............

95-db6-719

no that was to the tires and its the tc that was being built for nitto by that japanese guy lol, its on nitto's website. i think.. but i know they were making well over 500 to the tires on 1000cc injectors maxing out the cycle.