SiRCiviC94

which one should I use? and does it require extra tuning or the tuner can adjust for it quite easily?

TheShodan

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Nope. gotta use another map sensor (omnipower 4 bar, Hondata 4 bar, GM 3 Bar, etc), depending upon what management you're using.. (Can't answer CROME or other freeware versions). It will need to be tuned anyway for the higher levels.

civic98coupe4

What could I expect out of this set up? any input? looking for a good DD, nothing major..

Gen II with around 75k
Arp head studs
Stage 2 Skunk2 cams, springs,retainers
stock block
log style mani
Nissan sr-20 rebuilt turbo with a t28 adaptor to fit mani
450cc or 550cc injectors
no name BOV & wastegate
Not sure on tune yet, thinking about getting Phearable to retune my p28 on chrome for 8psi or so..

Any ideas? thanks

dcmatt

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That's a lot of cam for that setup. Bigger is not always better.

Also that is not a tune your purchasing from them. Just a basemap where they've made an guess based on what you told them. The turbo your going to use will run out of steam pretty quick.

civic98coupe4

I was wondering.. So I should take it and get it dyno tuned then, or get hondata?

dcmatt

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No matter what you will have to get tuned. Just buying hondata is no differant. You still need a tuner to tune it. It doesn't matter if its Chrome, ectune, hondqta, Neptune, aem, etc. You need q tuners.

grumblemarc

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Fixed.

Drew17th

Hey everyone, just wanted to share my setup, my results and experiences. So, I live in Washington state. about 45 minutes north of seattle. I suppose around here I have my share of shops to Dyno tune with. I have tried a few of them with previous setups and after speaking with a few friends running outlaw class and their experiences I decided we would make the trip to Reid at kaizenspeed. After speaking with Reid quite abit, picking his brain and making sure we were on the same page my friends and I made the 5 hour trip to kennewick.

Upon arrival we were immediately treated like family or part of the group. We had a great experience from top to bottom. Everyone was super friendly and profesional without feeling fake.The customer service was great and any questions were answered immediately. If I did not ask the questions Reid, Shawn and Andy made sure they told me. The reason I say all this is because tuners I have been too on my side of the mountains are not the same way from personal experiences.

here is my setup

b16a2 block:
84mm benson sleeved block
Benson balanced and micropolished crank
CP pistons and rings
Pauter rods
ACL Bearings
OEM (TypeR) oil pump
Lower gasket set
Blueprint and assembly by laskey racing
arp head studs
golden eagle 84mm head gasket
ati super dampener
moroso pan

b16a2 head:
tom at portflow did his standard honda headwork
super tech springs
super tech retainers
super tech standard valves
edlebrock victor x manifold
omni-power 68mm throttlebody
hondata intake mani gasket
skunk2 pro1 cams
golden eagle cam gears

FUEL:
id1000 injectors
str fuel rail
SARD fuel pressure regulator
WALBRO 400
-6an feed line, stock return
upgraded fuel pump wiring relay setup
q16

engine management/gauges:
Hondata s300
mac boost solenoid
aem wideband/gauge
aem boost gauge


TURBO setup:
precision 6262sp .82 a/r
omnipower 4bar map
blue ridge motorsports ram horn
blue ridge motorsports 3in downpipe
blue ridge motorsports dump
46mm precision gate with 14lb spring
tial blowoff
3in intercooler piping
garrett 750hp core, custom fabbed

Mishimoto
FAL shrouded fan

drivetrain:
b16a2 tranny
quaife lsd
Tilton twin disc

the car before leaving, bumper and hood came off before loading on trailor tho.


the truck and trailor on the east side of the mountains (needed soda and **** stop) lol


on the dyno


the sound breaks up because the MIC couldnt pick it all up. sorry lol.

the results



according to Reid it kept wanting to make power, was very efficient and one of the best b16 setups he has seen. we would have kept going but injectors were at 97% duty cycle. So I am going to run this WHP level for this year, purchase new injectors and see what it can do next year. I just need seat time basically. The last 2 years ive dragged at 210whp all motor and this is a whole new animal.

civic98coupe4

Very nice set up^ After doing some more research, I'm looking into a Crome pro set up with Moates Ostrich emulator and datalogger for a basic tune until I can pick up s300.

rydinsolo

93 del sol
B16a
Arp headstuds
itr cams
Stock everything else internally and motor wise

Turbo setup
PeakBoost manifold
Extended manifold studs
Turbonetics 50 trim
Turbonetics raptor bov
Turbonetics evolution wastegate
2" ic piping(very small upgrading soon)
Emusa front mount
Hondata s300v2
Walbro 255
Rc440's
Aem wideband
Prosport oil temp and oil psi
Autometer boost gauge

Car made 315whp@212tq on 8psi

Buying id1000's next month, tial 44 wg, and new ic piping with backdoor ic setup on drivers side. Bumping the boost up to 12-14psi and hoping for close fo 400whp.
I have a spare block im getting sleeved and built. When im done with that build ill swap them out and 6766 will be going on.

With my current setup i ran 3 times at GLD and got a 13.2@114 - - my shifter rod broke shifting into second causing my to miss. I lost quite a bit of time there and then i missed third on the same run because the shifter was messed up. It was sharp i ended up cutting my fingers on it trying to get it into 3rd. It was so short where it beoke but i was hapoy. I had a SLAP FULL TANK of gas. Tool box. Spare tire and jack in the trunk. I was weighed down allot.

I now have swapped this motor setup into a da integra and have my 2 step turned on now with slicks. Hoping to get low 12's.

Saifskyline

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Nice thread and nice to see some bone stock b16a making 300+hp! Will post mine on here once its all done

deuce_Fc

91 crx with a b16a


stock sleeve b16a, bored 81.5
hand ported head
gsr cams
wiseco 8.8-9.1 pistons
eagle rods
precision 4831
brms top mount
tial 50mm bov
tial 44mm wastegate
front mount intercooler
mfactory lsd
jdm b16a cable tranny, short as ***.
precision 1200 cc injectors
aem fuel rail
aeromotive 340 pump
victor X manifold
3in dp, no exhuast

tuned on chrome, no dyno numbers, tuned on the open hwy's @ 14ish psi, ran 12.2 1/4 @ 117mph with small 22x8x15 slicks on a 15x5 or 15x6 dookies, one of the two.

toys coming in: bigger slicks 24x8x14 on 14x8 and more boost and neptune, 11's is so close, lol



this just came in today.

SiRCiviC94

anyone got their SIR running a 57trim .63-.68ar? im dying to see how it reacts

stock B16
inlinepro cast mani
emusa 350hp cooler
garrett 57trim hybrid
chrome gold
stock head stock head stud
shoot for #??

next supertech head stock gsr or b16 cams
arp head studs
oem gasket
stock block

#?

after that I will be leaving for the boosted B18c thread

utahturbosohc

Couple years ago we did a stock b16a, cast drag Mani, garrett t3/t4 57trim, tuned using Neptune. Made 413@24ish psi and 112octane fuel.

My brother had his tuned last night, but I'll let him chime in on those #'s.

rydinsolo

^413!!! Nice. Im hoping to get as close as i can to 400whp on the stock motor for this summer to play around with. I will be going back to the track with ny settup in the integra on radials.

Everyone local except my tuner said oh you will never see close to 400wheel on the sto k b16 bla blah..hell dont bash it until you try it personally i say haha..

SiRCiviC94

any ET's on what that gave? really 400+HP on stock anchient B16 internals wow. ill roast rubber really bad at anything over 280-320whp...thats the current goal. things may change head studs and a fresh head 350whp?

rydinsolo

Well i ran a 13.2@114 but missesd second cause the shifter rod broke snd then couldnt get a grip on the snapped shifter rod to get it into third. Plus full tank of gas. Tool box spare tire and jack in the back (didnt plan on running) last minute thing.

ArniFPR

here is my setup
Bone Stock b16a2
Holset HX40 .83 ar with a 60mm compressor wheel
Cast Mani
Cometic head gasket
AEM fuel rail
RC 1000cc in the video but currently i have SFI 1680cc Injectors
Edelbrock VictorX 78mm intake
stock TB currently
CC Stage 4 Solid 6puck Ceramic disc clutch
Huge FMIC
Some ebay bov and Wastegate
it has an stock b16 tranny with a LSD out of an S80 teggy tranny with the b16 final drive
TegiwaImports aluminum rad

It's Tuned on crome pro, Mac boost solenoid, Boost by gear, hi/lo boost switch and Anti Lag launch control,
High boost now 22psi low boost is wastegate 11-13psi

Best time last year. i was breaking the stock axles on Hoosier D.O.T. Drag Radial's 225/50r15
so on the last practice i got a 1.79 60ft but broke the inner cv so i couldn't finish the run so this car has an 11's in him


Best 1/8mile time 7.8 here is the video

rydinsolo

ArniFPR - very nice setup man. What kind of numbers did it put down?

civic98coupe4

Took my set up to get tuned. The clutch ended up not holding up on 8ish lbs in 4th gear so the dyno stopped at 225hp at like 4.5k rpms.. Once I get a new stage 3, I'm hoping to give her about 12 lbs and hope to hit around 350.

Little info-
SiR ll, Fully built stage 2 head
Stock block
Arp studs
. 60 ar Garrett internal turbo
E85 and Crome
Big fmic and 2.5in piping

ArniFPR

there isn't a dyno here in iceland that is trustworthy so it's street tuned

rydinsolo

If you were to guess what would you think?

Im on hondata s300 tuned on 8.7psi right now. But when i get my new injectors in, bigher ic piping i plan to bump the boost up and get retuned. I would like to be around the 400whp mark. Im honestly kinda nervous from reading others reveiws and such. My tuner tuned another b16 si with a full ebay kit. It was kinda janky and it made 326 i think on 14psi. I was thinking of going up to 12-14psi and see what i can get..still unsure tho. I make 315@212 on 8.7psi now

03yamr6

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Here's my set up in my crx

Completely bone stock b16a
Pnp head
Arp head studs
Gsr exhaust cam, ctr intake cam
Stock dual springs on exhaust and intake
Victor x im
Precision 1200cc injectors on E85
Obx top mount manifold "budget build"
Holset hx35
Tial 44mm waste gate
Car made 420whp and 293tq at 22.8 psi on a mustang dyno. Tuned on Neptune by chad at noribilt.

I did rebuild the motor just put new rings and bearings.

ArniFPR

my tuner said around the 500hp mark so i'm not sure

rydinsolo

Dam 03 yamar6 very nice numbers...im deff going to attempt to up the boost during retune this summer and see what i get