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Old 11-13-2009, 02:54 PM
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Richard came to us from Charleston for a complete partial throttle / WOT tune. This car pulls hard.

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Borg Warner S200 (50 trim / 1.10 a/r) From a John Deere Tractor
Eagle H Rod
Wiseco 8.8:1 pistons
.078 cometic headgasket (brings compression closer to 8:1)
ARP Main Bolts
ARP Head Sutds
Block guard
3" Aluminum Piping
4" Side Exit "downpipe"
750CC RC Injectors
Walboro 255
Hondata S300
Pump 93 octane
21-21.5 psi

This setup easily has another 15-20whp with a tad more timing. Customer wanted a conservative map so that's what we gave him.





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wow thats some laggy *** **** right there is it the head gasket that makes it that way?
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wow, that is extremely laggy peak tq @ 7250, wow. 1.10a/r? sounds sick thuogh
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Default Re: B16A - Borg Warner S200 - Pump Gas Dyno Tune

Originally Posted by Spent
Richard came to us from Charleston for a complete partial throttle / WOT tune. This car pulls hard.
It also has a terrible powerband.

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Old 11-13-2009, 06:59 PM
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not ideal at all, but it isn't bad for using a junkyard dog of a turbo...

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Car is clean but that setup is ehh. 8:1 com and a JY turbo wit a 1.10 ar eww. Powerband looks horrible and 21 psi for 1.3k worth of 300h+ Not feeling it.
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might as well have a ON and OFF switch for the turbo:p
Old 11-14-2009, 05:40 AM
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LOL.... Yeah guys, the turbo is not a good match for the motor. I'm sure the customer knows that. It's either change the turbo or build the head and rev it to 10K. Richard is a college student so you know how that goes. Regardless, he's happy with what he has.

Yes, the thick headgasket is a factor due to the really low compression but at the end, it probably wouldn't of made much of a difference just because the a/r ratio is so damn oversized for this motor.
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anymore pics of the setup? i'm curious to see the downpipe.
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atleast he can drive it around on the street lol.. it wont be spinning em til after 6krpms
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Default Re: B16A - Borg Warner S200 - Pump Gas Dyno Tune

Originally Posted by D-Rob
It also has a terrible powerband.
Absolutely agreed
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Originally Posted by D-Rob
It also has a terrible powerband.

- Derek
terrible for slicks, but i bet it moves out on the street
Old 11-15-2009, 02:59 AM
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Well as long as he's happy that's all that matters!
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Should have stuck with higher compression pistons and just tune it better.
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Too much lag for my liking....
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im sure he could find a new exhaust housing for that turbo that he has and they are fairly cheep and that should fix the lag problem
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wow that thing is laggy!
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Default Re: B16A - Borg Warner S200 - Pump Gas Dyno Tune

Originally Posted by speeddave
anymore pics of the setup? i'm curious to see the downpipe.
Not really good pics of exactly what you're looking for but it's something.

Believe it or not, this intercooler setup lowered his IAT's by 40 degrees consistently.







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Very interesting looking set-up. So does the owner drive the car around the street like that? Or is it a track only car?
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whatt the fuuu is that?? lmao
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LOL, I knew you guys would have a field day with those pics....

Yes, Richard drives this car daily and claims his neighbors hate his car..

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whatt the fuuu is that?? lmao
It is the first Honda to effectively say "get out of my way or you shall be crushed".
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My friend called me saying "dude there is a blue car like yours that is loud as **** making me think my car is falling apart" and i have yet to see this thing.
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umm wow, thats the definition of function over form lol
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So the only real engine work that was done to this car was pistons and rods?? No head work or anything??
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Default Re: B16A - Borg Warner S200 - Pump Gas Dyno Tune

So are you saying he drives it around with just the cow-catcher, and no bumper facia of any kind? If so, that's pretty interesting. . . I don't think I'd have the ballz for that, it kind of seems like asking for all of the wrong type of attention.

With that low of compression and the turbo spooling that late, this must be a very safe setup. I too would like to see what could happen if he could find a smaller a/r exhaust housing to try, or just rev it up some more.


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