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Old 01-04-2004, 10:53 PM
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Default B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1

K, im tired of spending 5 grand for a turbo setup. I had a lovefab manifold, 3" dp, holset turbo that could injest a child, intercooler the size of uranus and injectors that could outflow an elephants trunk.

I want something simple. I want something small... i want boost! Just let me know what you guys think would be a nice lil 6 or 7 psi kit. I'm thinking about a t28 BB from a silvia, and maybe an HKS manifold with and fmu and some ghetto intercooler... but i dunno. Tell me what you guys think when decent turbo for ~1200 or less comes to mind.

I've searched but in all of the posts, all i see are "dude, use the search function its been covered 1000000 times!!!1." Oorgle!

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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (tegasaurus)

HKS manifold: $250
stock sr20 t25: $100 (non-bb).
downpipe: $200
custom charge piping: $200
bov: $50 dsm
junkyard i/c: $50
dsm 450's: $50
uberdata/ghettodyne/turboedit: free
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total: $900
Old 01-04-2004, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (Buraku)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Buraku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HKS manifold: $250
stock sr20 t25: $100 (non-bb).
downpipe: $200
custom charge piping: $200
bov: $50 dsm
junkyard i/c: $50
dsm 450's: $50
uberdata/ghettodyne/turboedit: free
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total: $900</TD></TR></TABLE>

i hate DSM injectors. My friend ran them, one failed and caused him to crack a sleeve at the track. I was running them, one STARTED to fail and caused my #1 cylinder to run very lean and pinched the ring set, causing me to buy a new set of rings and a hone.

Since im only going to be using about 9-12 psi max (on a built b18a that i have: eagle rods, srp pistons, acl bearings, arp head studs, gsr head), what are your thoughts on 310cc injectors with a 10:1 fmu?

think that fuel setup will be able to support 250whp?

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Old 01-05-2004, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (Buraku)

hks mani can't find new for 250. I got mine for just a little over 3, but yes for a cheap junkyard setup it can be done. ie, t25 turbo, smic, and diy pipes, hack fuel mang.
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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (integrx)

I did my full kit for 1300 and im running the afc hack. i also got my afc brand new so you can find a better deal than i did. I am also running a T3 50 trim, .48ext. i have 450 dsm's and a hks BOV. i also have a full 3" catback mandral bent exhaust, and a 38mm Tial wastegate. if you wanted to run a smaller turbo with a internal wastegate and wanted to run a side mount (im running a front mount 2 btw) im positive you could spend alot less that i did. BTW with my kit i also got a greddy turbo timer and a msd btm unit.
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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (civicflnum1)

of course tons of people on here are gonna chime in and say what they did for how cheap but no you cannot get a GOOD, RELIABLE turbo setup for $1000.

Don't go the gay vtec hack route or cheesy engine management system or you will be kicking yourself in the *** later when you have to take all that crap out cause you decided you don't like it when someone shows you how nice a really good engine management system like hondata or AEM EMS is. And these alone cost $500-1000 dollars then you have to get them tuned.

I personally did all the research I could then found all the right, best working parts the first time instead of buying this, using it and realizing I didn't like it. Most turbo kits will ending up costing around $2500 if you custom it together from all the RIGHT parts!! Thats what mine cost with the Hondata.
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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (mike1114)

he can run ubber data instead of the hack and hondata and be safe if he tunes it right. I dont know why so many people sweat hondata or aem EMS when the hack will work very well as right if you tune it right. its not always what you use its how you tune it. yeah its an awsome system(hondata and uberdata) and i would lovvveee to run one but i cant afford it. i also have to pay for school n food n ****. why pay so much extra for a managment system if the hack is all he needs. he said he wanted a simple setup not a sweet system. he should just stick with the hack or uberdata.
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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (civicflnum1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicflnum1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he can run ubber data instead of the hack and hondata and be safe if he tunes it right. I dont know why so many people sweat hondata or aem EMS when the hack will work very well as right if you tune it right. its not always what you use its how you tune it. yeah its an awsome system(hondata and uberdata) and i would lovvveee to run one but i cant afford it. i also have to pay for school n food n ****. why pay so much extra for a managment system if the hack is all he needs. he said he wanted a simple setup not a sweet system. he should just stick with the hack or uberdata.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i had uberdata before, and ... well, still do, i jsut removed the jumper on my ECU so it runs stock now.

how well do the D series kits line up on B series, i know i have to re-drill the holes on the manifodl, but the ports i mean... do they line up once the holes are drilled? Cuz im thinking about just getting a D series greddy manifold for like 200 bones.

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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (tegasaurus)

You should talk with "Sonny" or myself if you are considering the B series HKS manifold. I had it, with a T28. You will run into alot of little issues. Having gone this route, I would recommend you go with a T3/T4 setup. i'm sure this could be done for around $2000. That is what I spent on my kit. Do not half-*** it, either. Spend a little more now. Trust me on the T3/T4 setup. Manifolds are about the samer, the T3/T4 turbos are cheaper than T28 units, the peripherals are MUCH more readily available. You have access to much more used parts, etc... If you have any more questions, feel free to IM me.
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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (tegasaurus)

i heard you just have to drill out the holes on the ends a little bigger for the sohc manifold. I heard some ppl make good power like i think jdem or something made 250 hp and 251 torque. ON a sohc
Old 01-05-2004, 08:58 PM
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my setup...

Manifold: Log style Stainless Steel LoveFab $250
Bov: 1g dsm - $50
turbo: $100 t3 60 trim 48 a/r
intercooler: pwr style $300
dsm injectors: $50 columbus
charge pipes /downpipe: $100
oil lines: $140 from flamenco T
wastegate: 38mm Tial $210
clamps: $30
flanges: $60 (bov, exhaust, 5bolt flanges and gaskets)

a few hundred bucks over your limit, but it can be done...

tuning through wideband (previously purcahsed) and chrome / uberdata / whatever.
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Default Re: B series turbokit... Under $1000 - can it be done?!?!!11one!1two!!1 (tegasaurus)

greddy mani don't bolt up that well, you can't use the far left and far right holes on the bottom. as for the actual exhaust hole you have to port it a little to flow better. I was porting mine but ended up getting the hks mani, because of time issues.
Old 01-06-2004, 05:05 AM
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I win.

Stealthmode Manifold(log manifold on GB on HMT)-$150 shipped

Junkyard Turbo- If you can find the silvia one...great for you, but im going to run a .63/.60 T3 on my LS

Charge pipes-$50-60 Home Depot Conduit piping (2")

Downpipe- 2.5" Piping from someone(home depot sometimes has a few 90's) and the flange (100-150)

BOV- DSM or Volvo (30-50)

DSM 450's- $50

2.5" Exhaust w/ muffler $290 shipped i believe from kteller

CCA Intercooler- $230 shipped (hmt.com group buy!!!!)

Clutch-$300

Oil Line Kit--$80 shipped from Stealthmode on hmt.com(feed and return line )

And do the guy that said you cant get a good reliable kit for ~$1000. Stick this in your pipe and smoke it.
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what are you using to control ****?
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uberdata...so add another $30 for chipping my ECU and the chip...and maybe another $50 as a thank you for xenocron for letting me use his wideband, chip burner and laptop.
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Why'd you sell your old setup?
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honestly??... i don't know haha, just too many complications involved, plus i quit my job so money is starting to run on the low end of 4 figures so turbo wasn't such a great thing.

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You get what you pay for
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why? hes right....
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the hell hes right. you wanna know how i can prove that bullshit statement wrong....

A Sony TV is normally $500 lets say. Its on sale for $250. You get what you pay for?

Also, knowledge and ghetto fabulousness(i just coined a new word) can replace the spending of large sums of money...
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hes 100% right. a junkyard kit with a small turbo MIGHT get you 200whp, while a correctly done turbo setup will yield much more. but he only wants 6psi so sure it will work. im not saying a junkyard kit wont work, but like he said, you get what u pay for.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rewsnaeht &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hes 100% right. a junkyard kit with a small turbo MIGHT get you 200whp, while a correctly done turbo setup will yield much more. but he only wants 6psi so sure it will work. im not saying a junkyard kit wont work, but like he said, you get what u pay for. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so build a junkyard kit and spent $500 on a brand new turbo, you could still do it for under 1000 bux, the only thing holding most junkyard kits back from making 300whp+ is the turbo,
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a junkyard kit is not limited to 200whp in the least. I would say they are more limited by the block. I would imagine a T3 can make 350+whp.

My kit isnt really a junkyard kit, but it is HMT style w/ "junkyard parts" and ill be making well into the 250whp range on 11psi on 93 octane. over 200% increase in both tq and whp isnt bad for around $1400 including tuning, clutch, exhaust, and turbo kit.


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