AZ_CIVIC'S Build, Testing Things, ETC.
Well I basically got my rolling chassis all back together. Had some fun figuring out things I never have done before like removing my front and rear windows, my roof and re-installing as well. I've posted roof removal and re-installation in paint and body so if anyone is thing of doing something similar I've got some nice instructions on a how to and try to create helpful things as I go along.
I'm creating a thread here because I am going to try some things out with my forced induction setup and thought this could be a helpful place to add some insight and answer some questions. I am going to be trying some intake manifold tests, maybe some different turbo tests, intercooler setup and tests and because I am using Motec have the ability to run a bunch of sensors to see what difference certain things can result in for better or worse. One of the biggest issues I am having right now is my breather box which is new and have had issues with this thing just spitting oil right out the filters. Quick run down on my new current setup which is almost done Block: Darton Sleeved 84mm, Aluminum Rod 10:1 compression GSR Block. Head: 4 Piston Outlaw Head, Full Ferrea Valve Train, Web Cam Pro's Cams, GSR Head Trans: PPG Gear Set, Liberty Bell Housing, Comp Twin, DSS 5.9's, Gforce shifter with strain gauge. Suspension: Strange Engineering Coilovers, Kaizenspeed Rear Trailing Arm Kit, MAAK Brace, Full Kingpin Spherical Bearing setup. Fuel: Huge Weldon 2345-A pump, 8 ID200's Injectors, 1.9 gallon fuel cell Forced Induction: Custom 7290 Comp Turbo, Full Race Forward Face Manifold, Tial 60mm Gate/Blowoff Vavle, Custom piping, Custom Intercooler. |
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Nice!
If you are going to use a Skunk2 Ultra IM, I'd be curious to know if it fit the head flush right out of the box |
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Originally Posted by Autoworks
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Nice!
If you are going to use a Skunk2 Ultra IM, I'd be curious to know if it fit the head flush right out of the box I’ll be using this modified BMC. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...0a12457e2.jpeg |
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Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC
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Side note, i recently looked into the web street/strip cams. |
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Wow its gonna be killer.
Interesting that you chosen Comp turbo for such a serious build. Do you have some data on their turbos ? Im not saying they are bad but i cant seem to find data for their turbine wheels spool etc. They only list 92mm exducer turbine wheel turbos on their website hmmmmmmm :) |
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Originally Posted by ls joker
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Awesome. Any ideal on mainfolds and turbo that you wanted to test out.
Side note, i recently looked into the web street/strip cams. So I was originally thinking of buying the Skunk2 Ultra with the 4piston machining on the runners but decided not to do it because the BMC has 8 injector mounting on the top where the Skunk2 has 4 up top and 4 down below so I didn't want to have to remake my fuel line to accommodate. Then I though of going all out and purchasing a Kinsler but again they run the injector top and bottom. So what I ended up doing was using the BMC but the runners were able to be removed and were held on with bolts and orings. I've heard of these things leaking so I decided to have the runners totally welded on so I wouldn't have to worry about leaks. So the BMC has a pretty big Plenum and am going to see how this one works with my new setup and hopefully it is better than when I ran the Victor X. |
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Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
(Post 51699550)
Wow its gonna be killer.
Interesting that you chosen Comp turbo for such a serious build. Do you have some data on their turbos ? Im not saying they are bad but i cant seem to find data for their turbine wheels spool etc. They only list 92mm exducer turbine wheel turbos on their website hmmmmmmm :) If the turbo ends up sucking I am thinking of trying the Precision gen2 7285 and as far as spool goes I am not worried about that LOL. I never go below 9,000 RPMS so no biggie. I've also thought about the Precision 6785 as well but we will see. |
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Yeah i was thinking about 6785 would be very good for your build but it DAM expensive. What happened to the 6870?
About spool yeah im an idiot you never really let of the gas anyway... Edit: Wait isnt it a ruleset on turbine wheel of like 85mm? What category do you race? |
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So this will be the turbo I will be using on my car this go round to see what it will do. I figured just taking a picture of the turbo in the box you sometimes loose reference on how big a turbo or something can be by just looking at a picture. This is the turbo next to a gallon milk jug just to give a reference on how big this thing is LOL. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...f68112b43.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...165d3ee4d.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...89c5b4928.jpeg |
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A turbo that size just seems more comical than practical. Lol
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Originally Posted by Txdragon
(Post 51702370)
A turbo that size just seems more comical than practical. Lol
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That's one large snail.
In for more awesomeness. :beer: |
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Wow. This will pull the car to the side. Haha.
Do you have any dyno plot of the 6870? It was itching me to get a Comp turbo some years ago. Do they have their own design turbine wheels or garrett/garetish design? |
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Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
(Post 51702466)
Wow. This will pull the car to the side. Haha.
Do you have any dyno plot of the 6870? It was itching me to get a Comp turbo some years ago. Do they have their own design turbine wheels or garrett/garetish design? This Comp turbo has put down over 1300whp. Comp Turbo does design their own turbine wheels and doesn't use anything Garrett. |
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Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC
(Post 51702385)
Oh for sure, a turbo this size on a DD car wouldn't make much sense but a race car absolutely LOL.
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Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC
(Post 51702489)
We did a dyno run with the 6870 and put down like 1070whp or something like that but last time I asked Joe of Locash CNC (my tuner) he didn't save my run LOL.
This Comp turbo has put down over 1300whp. Comp Turbo does design their own turbine wheels and doesn't use anything Garrett. I saw this collections of dynos some years (?) ago Comp turbo yield good results. |
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Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC
(Post 51702489)
Comp Turbo does design their own turbine wheels and doesn't use anything Garrett. They dont just mix and match wheels like other companies???? |
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Originally Posted by Pepe14
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They dont just mix and match wheels like other companies???? |
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Just some updates: Got the interior all back together, finished everything up with the body. Now just waiting to get the cage 7.5 certified and then motor will start to make its way back in. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...b84ca8331.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...7818adf1d.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...7a4234ca4.jpeg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...8d182bc32.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...f3cc36b7a.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...38df85bdb.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...42ca929fa.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...fe68ae89f.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...0a63efee0.jpeg |
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Incredible build man, extremely impressive, I can tell you have put your heart and soul into this car |
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Beautiful car - but then I'm a black car fan. I've always thought Black suited the EG and EK's
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So one of the things I have seen some people asking is the type of pan to use. A lot of people have had issues with Moroso pans leaking and so have I, one thing with my last Moroso pan we tried gaskets, we tried Honda Bond and we even shaved all the little dimples down and used a gasket sealer and that was the best but still not perfect. This time I am trying the all aluminum Moroso pan and we will see how this one holds up. So far putting it on a flat surface it is almost perfect with very slight movement but nothing major. Once it is bolted down and sealed hopefully I don't have issues but we will see. https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...e49617f74.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...b9ce56e16.jpeg |
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The paint job is incredible. What a car.
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Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
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The paint job is incredible. What a car.
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Yup car looks great.
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It was sprayed with varnish/lackeur ( is that the correct term for clear coat?) , then sanded by hand with 1500 - 3000 paper then clear coat sprayed again?
Its insane. |
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Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
(Post 51709407)
It was sprayed with varnish/lackeur ( is that the correct term for clear coat?) The sanded with 1500 - 3000 then clear coat sprayed again?
Its insane. |
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Ok im prnt screening this. It looks like CGI haha.
You gonna have to paper tape everywere to save the paint when you visit the strip. |
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Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
(Post 51709440)
Ok im prnt screening this. It looks like CGI haha.
You gonna have to paper tape everywere to save the paint when you visit the strip. |
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Youre something else man. Keep up the good job.
If i were at the states id visit you to do me a paint job . Open a car detailing shop and name it "Miracle paint" |
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Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
(Post 51709523)
Youre something else man. Keep up the good job.
If i were at the states id visit you to do me a paint job . Open a car detailing shop and name it "Miracle paint" https://www.facebook.com/Best-Built-Customs |
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So I am pretty excited, just ordered a tig welder and really can’t wait to get it going. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...6a6d27272.jpeg |
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Is that a good one? How much it cost?
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Originally Posted by Balor_Gr
(Post 51715624)
Is that a good one? How much it cost?
This machine was about $1100 shipped so I'm hoping it does pretty good LOL. |
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Shoulda went ahp alpha tig been using mine for 3 years now |
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Got one (not the same brand) from Harbor Freight for half the price, has served me well for 3 years. Tigs are pricey, no doubt about it. I'd love a plasma cutter as well but just don't do enough of THAT type of work to justify that purchase. A couple various size die grinders will still make good cuts for me.
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Originally Posted by Txdragon
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Got one (not the same brand) from Harbor Freight for half the price, has served me well for 3 years. Tigs are pricey, no doubt about it. I'd love a plasma cutter as well but just don't do enough of THAT type of work to justify that purchase. A couple various size die grinders will still make good cuts for me.
I've never tig welded so this is another thing I am going to practice so I can become self reliant on fabricating my own stuff. One day if I need to get good at building race motors so I can be a one stop shop and never have to have anyone but me working on my stuff LOL. |
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Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC
(Post 51716946)
I have buddies with full blown shops and 5k millers, plasma, plasma tables, benders, CNC machines etc. Right now I wanted something that was pretty good, the digital 200 is cool because you can have like 20 pre loaded settings for different things. So if you set it up to run 1/8th aluminum and have a real good setting you can save that so if you move on to welding some stainless you don't have to go back and adjust the setting. This one you can also setup a pulse setting and not even use the pedal once dialed in and the torch has a built in trigger that replaces the pedal like if you are in a tight corner or good example welding a cage in the car where accessing the foot pedal would be hard you can use the trigger on the torch.
I've never tig welded so this is another thing I am going to practice so I can become self reliant on fabricating my own stuff. One day if I need to get good at building race motors so I can be a one stop shop and never have to have anyone but me working on my stuff LOL. Tig welding is fun. For some practice, try painting with a piece of spaghetti. Lol! |
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TIG is all about practice and being comfortable
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Originally Posted by LightningTeg
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TIG is all about practice and being comfortable
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