ATTENTION ALL TURBO LOVERS !!!!! FAKE APEXI TURBO TIMERS !!!! BEWARE!!!
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ATTENTION ALL TURBO LOVERS !!!!! FAKE APEXI TURBO TIMERS !!!! BEWARE!!!
http://www.apexi-usa.com/news_special.asp
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From above link :
<FONT COLOR="red">9/28/2005
COUNTERFEIT A’PEXi AUTO TIMER ALERT</FONT>
It has come to our attention that some unscrupulous individuals are counterfeiting our A'PEXi Auto Timers, using our trademarked logo, and ripping people off by peddling them as a genuine A'PEXi product. These individuals are con-artists who are not interested in providing you quality performance products and are only interested in making a quick buck off unsuspecting customers. A'PEXi is concerned about the potential damage that the counterfeit Turbo Timers may cause. Poor circuit design, incomplete programming, use of inferior materials, and inconsistent manufacturing processes could lead to car malfunction, short circuits, electrical fires, electrocution, and possible physical injury and are not recommended for use.
Key features of the A'PEXi Auto Timer, such as the Parking Brake Safety Protection and Air/Fuel Ratio Monitor functions are non-operational on the counterfeit units.
In order to ensure that our customers do not get ripped off, we offer several ways to distinguish the counterfeit Turbo Timers from genuine A'PEXi Auto Timers. Please note that points 1, 9, and 10 are most effective at identifying counterfeits because they are the most difficult to change.
1. Case Thickness - The genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer has a case thickness of 3/8 inch at the display area, the counterfeit Turbo Timer is 7/16 inch. This is the best way to determine whether or not the Auto Timer is genuine or counterfeit, because it is difficult for the counterfeiters to address the thickness difference.
2. Check the Harness - The genuine harness has red dots along the black, white, and grey wires. The counterfeit units do not.
3. Check Parts List - The genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer contains all the items shown on the parts list. The counterfeit Turbo Timers are missing zip ties, double sided tape, splices, and electro-taps.
4. Serial Numbers - The genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer has a serial number on the black relay box. The counterfeit Turbo Timer has no serial number on the box.
5. Package Height - The clear plastic box on the genuine Auto Timer is 3 inches tall. The counterfeit Auto Timer is only 2.5 inches tall.
6. Package Opening - The clear plastic box on the genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer opens on the sides, whereas the counterfeit Auto Timer opens on the front and back.
7. Check the Display - On the genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer the red LED display is visibly red when powered off. On the counterfeit Turbo Timer, the display is not red when off.
8. Film on Display - The genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer has no film on the display. The counterfeit Turbo Timer has a clear poly-film affixed to the display.
9. A/F Monitor - On the counterfeit Turbo Timer, the A/F Function does not work. It reads 14.6 all of the time.
10. Parking Brake Safety - On the counterfeit Auto Timer, the Parking Brake Safety Function does not work. If you release the handbrake, the engine will continue idling which could lead a collision and/or physical injury.
To protect yourself, avoid purchasing a product if you are not certain that it is a genuine A'PEXi product. Only purchase from dealers on our dealer list, or otherwise dealers that you know and trust, and do not purchase this item via online auctions. Also, use a credit card that has a strong anti-fraud policy so that you can utilize their resources to get your money back should you accidentally purchased a counterfeit product.
If you have accidentally purchased a counterfeit item, immediately return the item to the place of purchase for a full refund, regardless of the store's refund policy. In the case of fraud, such policies are null and void. If the store is not compliant, file a report with the police, or http://www.fraud.org, or http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp. Please call Apex Integration, Inc. to notify us of the business/seller as well. We are on your side.
We at A'PEX Integration would like to humbly thank all of our loyal customers for their continued support of genuine A'PEX products. It is only through your awareness and support that we can protect the tuning market and continue to bring you innovative products developed from true R&D.
Please send any counterfeit related questions or information to: fraud@apexi-usa.com
Apex Integration Inc.
330 West Taft Ave.
Orange, CA 92865
(714) 586-5700
<FONT COLOR="blue">Spread the word to anyone who may be purchasing turbo accessories- </FONT>
From above link :
<FONT COLOR="red">9/28/2005
COUNTERFEIT A’PEXi AUTO TIMER ALERT</FONT>
It has come to our attention that some unscrupulous individuals are counterfeiting our A'PEXi Auto Timers, using our trademarked logo, and ripping people off by peddling them as a genuine A'PEXi product. These individuals are con-artists who are not interested in providing you quality performance products and are only interested in making a quick buck off unsuspecting customers. A'PEXi is concerned about the potential damage that the counterfeit Turbo Timers may cause. Poor circuit design, incomplete programming, use of inferior materials, and inconsistent manufacturing processes could lead to car malfunction, short circuits, electrical fires, electrocution, and possible physical injury and are not recommended for use.
Key features of the A'PEXi Auto Timer, such as the Parking Brake Safety Protection and Air/Fuel Ratio Monitor functions are non-operational on the counterfeit units.
In order to ensure that our customers do not get ripped off, we offer several ways to distinguish the counterfeit Turbo Timers from genuine A'PEXi Auto Timers. Please note that points 1, 9, and 10 are most effective at identifying counterfeits because they are the most difficult to change.
1. Case Thickness - The genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer has a case thickness of 3/8 inch at the display area, the counterfeit Turbo Timer is 7/16 inch. This is the best way to determine whether or not the Auto Timer is genuine or counterfeit, because it is difficult for the counterfeiters to address the thickness difference.
2. Check the Harness - The genuine harness has red dots along the black, white, and grey wires. The counterfeit units do not.
3. Check Parts List - The genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer contains all the items shown on the parts list. The counterfeit Turbo Timers are missing zip ties, double sided tape, splices, and electro-taps.
4. Serial Numbers - The genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer has a serial number on the black relay box. The counterfeit Turbo Timer has no serial number on the box.
5. Package Height - The clear plastic box on the genuine Auto Timer is 3 inches tall. The counterfeit Auto Timer is only 2.5 inches tall.
6. Package Opening - The clear plastic box on the genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer opens on the sides, whereas the counterfeit Auto Timer opens on the front and back.
7. Check the Display - On the genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer the red LED display is visibly red when powered off. On the counterfeit Turbo Timer, the display is not red when off.
8. Film on Display - The genuine A'PEXi Auto Timer has no film on the display. The counterfeit Turbo Timer has a clear poly-film affixed to the display.
9. A/F Monitor - On the counterfeit Turbo Timer, the A/F Function does not work. It reads 14.6 all of the time.
10. Parking Brake Safety - On the counterfeit Auto Timer, the Parking Brake Safety Function does not work. If you release the handbrake, the engine will continue idling which could lead a collision and/or physical injury.
To protect yourself, avoid purchasing a product if you are not certain that it is a genuine A'PEXi product. Only purchase from dealers on our dealer list, or otherwise dealers that you know and trust, and do not purchase this item via online auctions. Also, use a credit card that has a strong anti-fraud policy so that you can utilize their resources to get your money back should you accidentally purchased a counterfeit product.
If you have accidentally purchased a counterfeit item, immediately return the item to the place of purchase for a full refund, regardless of the store's refund policy. In the case of fraud, such policies are null and void. If the store is not compliant, file a report with the police, or http://www.fraud.org, or http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp. Please call Apex Integration, Inc. to notify us of the business/seller as well. We are on your side.
We at A'PEX Integration would like to humbly thank all of our loyal customers for their continued support of genuine A'PEX products. It is only through your awareness and support that we can protect the tuning market and continue to bring you innovative products developed from true R&D.
Please send any counterfeit related questions or information to: fraud@apexi-usa.com
Apex Integration Inc.
330 West Taft Ave.
Orange, CA 92865
(714) 586-5700
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Re: ATTENTION ALL TURBO LOVERS !!!!! FAKE APEXI TURBO TIMERS !!!! BEWARE!!! (BigDisarray)
I'm glad i bought mine 1 year ago..lol.. Man people do some dum stuff. Copy everything. I bet there all over ebay.
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Re: ATTENTION ALL TURBO LOVERS !!!!! FAKE APEXI TURBO TIMERS !!!! BEWARE!!! (EFB16ACRX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFB16ACRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are pretty good copies unfortunately, but i still dont understand why this was pmed to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
probably just to give you a heads up just in case you come across one and don't want to destroy your car/motor. (or a friend's)
probably just to give you a heads up just in case you come across one and don't want to destroy your car/motor. (or a friend's)
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Re: ATTENTION ALL TURBO LOVERS !!!!! FAKE APEXI TURBO TIMERS !!!! BEWARE!!! (Russ713)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Russ713 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">probably just to give you a heads up just in case you come across one and don't want to destroy your car/motor. (or a friend's)</TD></TR></TABLE> just to a few kills regs. some of you know people with forced induction plans 
10-13-2005, 07:41 AM
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Re: ATTENTION ALL TURBO LOVERS !!!!! FAKE APEXI TURBO TIMERS !!!! BEWARE!!! (Radical_Edward)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Radical_Edward »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> just to a few kills regs. some of you know people with forced induction plans </TD></TR></TABLE>
I hate having "future plans" but boost is the only way to go 
</TD></TR></TABLE> I hate having "future plans" but boost is the only way to go
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EFB16ACRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">seems to me the easiest way for anyone to tell the difference wuold be the red face.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, that's the easiest if you know what you're looking for. I bet you most people that come across these without any knowledge of fakes, won't ever know until Apexi denies a warranty.
yeah, that's the easiest if you know what you're looking for. I bet you most people that come across these without any knowledge of fakes, won't ever know until Apexi denies a warranty.
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That's a pretty damn good copy, looks so incredibly similar...
It's amazing the extent the fakers went to copy the real thing.
I never was a fan of turbo timers. I'm not so busy that I can't afford to sit in the car for an extra 30 seconds after long drives.
It's amazing the extent the fakers went to copy the real thing.
I never was a fan of turbo timers. I'm not so busy that I can't afford to sit in the car for an extra 30 seconds after long drives.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hope they have identified who it is that is making the copies.
If they are in the states, they are about to get their *** raped. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I doubt its in the states. *cough* China *cough* OBX *cough*
I like how everyone is on one side for this topic, but whenever OBX rips anything off, people buy it and support them.
If they are in the states, they are about to get their *** raped. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I doubt its in the states. *cough* China *cough* OBX *cough*
I like how everyone is on one side for this topic, but whenever OBX rips anything off, people buy it and support them.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotime »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is different- obx doesnt used trademarked logos and push products out under other companies names</TD></TR></TABLE>
Its just as bad in my opinion. OBX is a cardboard box away from doing the same thing.
Its just as bad in my opinion. OBX is a cardboard box away from doing the same thing.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Its just as bad in my opinion. OBX is a cardboard box away from doing the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It might be bad in your opinion, but they can do whatever they want as long as there isn't a patent, trademark of copywright. Of course there are millions of exceptions, but basically what OBX is doing is perfectly legal. Buisness wouldn't even exist if you couldn't copy designs and find other means of sell it.
OBX doesn't try and sell their diffs with the Quaife name...
Its just as bad in my opinion. OBX is a cardboard box away from doing the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It might be bad in your opinion, but they can do whatever they want as long as there isn't a patent, trademark of copywright. Of course there are millions of exceptions, but basically what OBX is doing is perfectly legal. Buisness wouldn't even exist if you couldn't copy designs and find other means of sell it.
OBX doesn't try and sell their diffs with the Quaife name...
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