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Old 12-21-2005, 12:55 PM
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Like the title says...
Im deciding on upgrading my stock B18C1 valvesprings and retainers but....
Would you guys say Stock valvetrain its safe for Boost on 11-15lbs @ 300-400hp???
Seems to be fine right now at 11lbs @330hp.
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonhatchblack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Like the title says...
Im deciding on upgrading my stock B18C1 valvesprings and retainers but....
Would you guys say Stock valvetrain its safe for Boost on 11-15lbs @ 300-400hp???
Seems to be fine right now at 11lbs @330hp.
Inputs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't see why not, I'd think increasingly high rpm would lead to valvetrain failure before the power would be an issue. FWIW, a number of locals have seen over 400whp with 100% stock heads
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I just finished tuning a 290whp totally stock LS engine. Seemed to work ok.
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i rev my **** out to 9K with ITR valvetrain. i might invest in some blox products soon. possible do a test with blox B's on a boosted setup
Old 12-21-2005, 02:08 PM
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I got 317hp, with a completely stock GSR head on an LS block. Its working fine, Im revving to 8K btw
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i rev my **** out to 9K with ITR valvetrain. i might invest in some blox products soon. possible do a test with blox B's on a boosted setup </TD></TR></TABLE>

careful, heavy abuse in that rpm range will eventually cause the retainers to fail.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

careful, heavy abuse in that rpm range will eventually cause the retainers to fail.</TD></TR></TABLE>

*raises hand*

I know
Old 12-21-2005, 10:22 PM
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Sounds like a 50/50 Factor.
But most likely i will upgrade my springs & retainers just for insurace.
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yeah im definatley gonna upgrade soon. i get scared revving that high also ahah
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Lol. Can someone enlighten me, why the retainers will fail out of all things? Ive seen 500whp on stock GSR valvetrain. 8500rpm ish
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Where? or Who? has a Reasonable Price $$ or Dual Valve Springs & Retainers??

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Larry at Endyn has them at a reasonable price check them out.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonhatchblack &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where? or Who? has a Reasonable Price $$ or Dual Valve Springs & Retainers??

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Check out the sponsor for sale section, FORCE INDUCTION.

FULL-RACE and few other guys I notice, have reasonable prices.
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400-stock head
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by synik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lol. Can someone enlighten me, why the retainers will fail out of all things? Ive seen 500whp on stock GSR valvetrain. 8500rpm ish</TD></TR></TABLE>

its not the power, its the rpm. stock retainers will fail if consistently revved past 9k.
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Bump for good info...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

its not the power, its the rpm. stock retainers will fail if consistently revved past 9k.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so stock retainers can withstand reving up to 9k rpm's?...
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i plan on puttin GSR cams in my b16 head for my LS/Vtec setup, should i replace my valvetrain...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbochargeb18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so stock retainers can withstand reving up to 9k rpm's?...</TD></TR></TABLE>

we're splitting hairs here. all im saying is that after some long term high R abuse (9200 rev limiter) on a previous setup the ITR retainers failed and I lost everything except the manifolds and cams.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jared &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

we're splitting hairs here. all im saying is that after some long term high R abuse (9200 rev limiter) on a previous setup the ITR retainers failed and I lost everything except the manifolds and cams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

gotcha....
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