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Old 02-10-2007, 08:05 PM
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Default Anyone Using the CTR N1 Crank pulley on there builds?

ive read some debateable threads so i was really curious who is actually using this crank pulley

Leave your feedback if you have used it.
If you havent used then your opinion does not matter to me. i dont care if your cousins brother GF best friend used it.
I jsut want direct feedback.

TIA
Old 02-11-2007, 08:52 AM
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Hmm i guess no one is then
Old 02-11-2007, 09:02 AM
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I've been using one for over two years, no problems.
Old 02-11-2007, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: Anyone Using the CTR N1 Crank pulley on there builds? (melovesboost)

Bad idea. I've had two friends shatter their oil pumps on their cars due to this. One kept running it and it shattered another one again a week later.
Old 02-11-2007, 09:33 AM
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say bye to your oil pump... I had a buddys car we put one on and 2 days later the oil pump shatter!!!
Old 02-11-2007, 09:40 AM
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hows it bad for your oil pump?
Old 02-11-2007, 09:44 AM
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Is it a real ctr pulley or a knock off? I think it has something to do with the actual pulley not having the vibration dampner in it.The oem pulleys have some sort of vibration absorber built in.
Old 02-11-2007, 09:50 AM
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I recently tore down my b16 for sleeving and a rebuild, and after using the ctr pulley for over 2 years I have no abnormal wear on bearings or oil pump gears, I use a stock flywheel, stock redline and I use the proper tension on my alternator belt. But thats just me, other people have different experiences.
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looks like this is going in the direction that all the other threads went..

People actually using it have no problems.. But everyones friend cousin and brother that uses it has a problem with it
Old 02-11-2007, 10:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by melovesboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks like this is going in the direction that all the other threads went..

People actually using it have no problems.. But everyones friend cousin and brother that uses it has a problem with it</TD></TR></TABLE>

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there is a difference between a ctr and a ctr n1 pulley the ctr ni pully is a straight race car mod and usually these race cars rev to 11000 rpm and have upgraded oil pumps it was not meant to be used on a stock motor
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what if you use the itr oil pump with the n1 pully?
Old 02-15-2007, 03:13 AM
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most honda gears are all sintered metal. and shatter with relative ease.
i swear by fluidampr. good friend uses an ATI, both are good. if you are racing NHRA or any sanctioned race, a non SFI approved damper if you are under 11.49 isnt legal anyway.

so to kill the argument, if you are under 11.49 technically you have to have an SFI approved damper.
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Cracked an oil pump gear on a B16a I was tuning with a T4 GT3767S. Wasnt fun. Cracked Qistrn's (local to me) oil pump gear. Cracked Blown90Hatch's (local to me at the time) oil pump gear. I could go on. There is no need to run this crank pulley
Old 02-15-2007, 06:04 AM
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Default Re: (melovesboost)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by melovesboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks like this is going in the direction that all the other threads went..

People actually using it have no problems.. But everyones friend cousin and brother that uses it has a problem with it</TD></TR></TABLE>

People tend to learn from other's mistakes. If it takes you running one and breaking your oil pump gear to find out ... So be it
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alpha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cracked an oil pump gear on a B16a I was tuning with a T4 GT3767S. Wasnt fun. Cracked Qistrn's (local to me) oil pump gear. Cracked Blown90Hatch's (local to me at the time) oil pump gear. I could go on. There is no need to run this crank pulley</TD></TR></TABLE>

why dont you cry about it...
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Let me add to the nah sayers.

A friend asks me to help him install a "CTR" pulley. No problem.
2 months later, the oil pump goes.
The pump gear is broken.
You decide.

This is just like ssautocrap turbos, some people get away with it others don't.
Like I said, you decide.
Old 02-15-2007, 07:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99B16Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

why dont you cry about it...</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old 02-15-2007, 07:42 AM
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how can the crank pully break your pump gears? that doesnt make much sense to me. maybe 10 000 redlines but like stock 8200? no way. i have one right now and its fine
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the.hamburglar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how can the crank pully break your pump gears? that doesnt make much sense to me. maybe 10 000 redlines but like stock 8200? no way. i have one right now and its fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's called a damper for a reason.
Old 02-15-2007, 09:13 AM
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what do you mean by damper?
Old 02-15-2007, 09:26 AM
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it dampens vibrations.

see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_balancer
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by the.hamburglar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how can the crank pully break your pump gears? that doesnt make much sense to me. maybe 10 000 redlines but like stock 8200? no way. i have one right now and its fine</TD></TR></TABLE>

the crank actually bends a little under severe load, as it does this, it vibrates alot at high frequency. this is supposed to be absorbed by the damper. if it isnt, it will shatter the oil pump because they are just made of sintered metal.
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so the N1 doesnt have a damper but like a stock b16 crank pully will?
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correct.
the engine that pulley is designed for, has other measures that make up for it.


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