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Old 08-14-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Anyone got d15 ignition maps for crome?

hello everyone,

anyone got base/stock d15 non vtec ignition maps?

i want to try them on my d14 since now i'm driving on d16 map.

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http://www.volcanomike.com/ecubin.html

There should be some d15 maps on that page
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Try the p05 one, that's only a 70hp engine. Or get a wideband.

http://www.volcanomike.com/bins/p05-USDM-231.bin
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I have an extensive collection of bins....
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sup.
thanks for the replyes.
my engine has 90 hp.

i asked xeno and he told me that non vtec d15's uses p05 p06.

i downladed few bins but i havent tryed them yet because they are off from each other....

im driving with base p28 ign maps over a year now and i but i feel some power missing on light /accel area.

take a look...:
p05stock248


p06-q00-314

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I think jaredkaragen who posted above you has pretty good non vtec bins,since thats what he's doing in his build.Take him up on his offer and pm him.
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pm'd...

still looking for some advice,
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You're going to have to get some kind of detonation detection set up and tune the map out yourself if you really want it to be right, unless by some rare chance you find someone who has a d14 similar to yours who has tuned it and is able to upload their rom and send it to you. There really isn't any kind of "100cc less equals 1 degree less" formulas that you can go by, at least not reliably or accurately. All setups vary. If you do check them with a det can and some street tuning, datalogging, you'll know for sure and you'd probably be surprised how close some of the maps others have posted actually are. More importantly, you won't be running someone else's b7 tune picking up that "lost power" and be driving around with the motor pinging because you can't hear it until the head gasket goes. If you have the stock ECU for this d14 engine, your best bet until you have a wideband and det can hooked up might be to disconnect the jumper and run the stock code. good luck
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Better yet, put the car on a dyno.
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i have a wideband.... what is it got to do with my ignition issue.

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i live in israel, no dyno's here.
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Default Re: (RACEPAK)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a wideband.... what is it got to do with my ignition issue.

p.s
i live in israel, no dyno's here.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A wideband can just let you tune AFR's, not ignition. Thats only half of the detonation issues it can let you solve. Just in case there's a language barrier, 'detonation' is a term that means your engine will die when it gets it.

You could run a .75 degree per PSI boost retard and likely be safe, although thats near the edge for a 75mm bore d-series thats &gt;9:1 compression. You should try to identify which type of cylinder head you have, as THAT will determine which basemap you should start with. What was your D14 rated for in terms of power from Honda? You can then add a couple percent to match the power levels to that of a p05, p06, etc.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

A wideband can just let you tune AFR's, not ignition. Thats only half of the detonation issues it can let you solve. Just in case there's a language barrier, 'detonation' is a term that means your engine will die when it gets it.

You could run a .75 degree per PSI boost retard and likely be safe, although thats near the edge for a 75mm bore d-series thats &gt;9:1 compression. You should try to identify which type of cylinder head you have, as THAT will determine which basemap you should start with. What was your D14 rated for in terms of power from Honda? You can then add a couple percent to match the power levels to that of a p05, p06, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol i know my english.... i got a wideband (a lm1).... afrs are all good. and i dont feel/hear detonations even with my det cans. but the engine used to run much crispyer back when i used the safc or/and the fmu (i'm reffering to the na part of the map) since it used its stock ign tables.

my d14 is rated for 90hp oem.... how can i id my head...? it most likly not a common one.
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the head is a P2A-1...
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as i understand.... the p06 map in most places is more retarded then the stock p28 lowcam table i'm using.

iv been told that its for economy factors on the d15....

anyone got a more agressive non vtec d15 map?

thanks.
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get an EGT gauge. it will help u tune for ignition
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got one...

light cruising 850-950
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PM'd u back.

As for the ignition maps: the P06 IGN maps suck *** IMHO.

I made a D15B8 with a D15B7 head, and it ran like **** on the P06 maps..... but with some cut/paste from aseveral different roms, it smoothed it out alot.
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thanks for the answer....

is it possible that you will post a pic of your ign maps?
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