turbomoe

A buddy of mine put some on and has had heagasket failure with em,hes tried stock and cometic gaskets,and he is a honda mechanic as well,so thats not the problem,im considering whether to use stock or the ARPs.

ham

every time ive boosted a honda motor with stock headbolts (and stock torque), i lifted the head. however i had a few turbo beaters that i overtorqued about 10lb/ft and had no problems. But I am known for overboosting stock motors... I do it for fun.

now i always run aftermarket head bolts or studs, unless its a beater and dont expect the motor to last. I have the golden eagle studs in my built GSR.

I know that alot of people get away with using the stock bolts, even with a lot of power, but I still recommend getting studs.


Modified by ham at 2:13 PM 3/27/2007

mitsuman

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ham &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">every time ive boosted a honda motor with stock headbolts (and stock torque), i lifted the head. however i had a few turbo beaters that i overtorqued the stock head bolts to 65-70lb/ft and had no problems. But I am known for overboosting stock motors... I do it for fun.

now i always run aftermarket head bolts or studs, unless its a beater and dont expect the motor to last. I have the golden eagle studs in my built GSR.

I know that alot of people get away with using the stock bolts, even with a lot of power, but I still recommend getting studs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

isnt 65 stock torque spec?

ITS_Dunn

63ish

I ran stock head bolts on a motor with 360,000kms on her after replacing the headgasket, made 255/222 for a season and spun a bearing.

ham

i was talking D series. 63 for the B series. i shouldve said that i overtorqued about 10ft/lb on the budget setups.

0morgan@synapse motorsport

run the arp's, we use them in all our builds, and i use off the shelf arp headstuds in my 613whp gsr.

they are cheap enough to get why go stock. especially if its a d series they always have head lift issues.

92LSVTEC

ARP headstuds FTMFW!

SovXietday

I'm running stock headbolts with stock torque specs. Never lifted the head, Y8 too.

turbomoe

The thing is that im runnin bout 10-12psi on my b-series,not 20-30psi.

EK_vzla

buy the ARP------ why not spend 100$ ???if you have money to boost your B.. maybe you have 100$ in your pocket right?

not2slo128

stock headbolts are not reusable... arps are.

ARP worked great. TQed mine down to around 80

ITS_Dunn

I'd do it if you have the money, I was just saying I've done it without.

turbomoe

thanks for all the info

mitsuman

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by not2slo128 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock headbolts are not reusable... arps are.

ARP worked great. TQed mine down to around 80</TD></TR></TABLE>

o i beg to differ

nonvtecD

I reused my stock headbolts 3 times on my first D motor and twice on my second boosted motor and never had any headlifting problems. If people could tune their cars they wouldnt have these problems

PHDZINE

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbomoe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The thing is that im runnin bout 10-12psi on my b-series,not 20-30psi. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you have other issues...was the head and block checked for flatness. If one or the other is not flat then you could blow head gaskets. 10-12 psi is nothing...even with stock head bolts.

You should also check your tune....Also your friend being a Honda mechanic means nothing...obviously he doesn't know how to diagnose your problem.

ITS_Dunn

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PHDZINE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also your friend being a Honda mechanic means nothing...obviously he doesn't know how to diagnose your problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Most honda "techs" from Honda are parts changers and have no idea what diagnosing is because they arent paid to do so.

Atleast around here. I know of two Honda techs and they are brilliant, the rest have no idea what they are talking about.

turbomoe

i thought 10-12psi wasnt much for arp headstuds,so some are using stock and some arent