danmej1

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Holse...item2558643144


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOLSE...item4a9df0b648

Or are any other Holset or other turbo's good for my 400+whp build

K7-1Ktrevor

I think those would both be pretty laggy, why not just go with a garrett to4e 60 trim?

danmej1

But aren't these known turbos that have been put in d-series turbo builds and have made 400+ whp with a full spool at 4500 rpm?

danmej1

Or how about this turbo http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Borg-...item414c56700d

and maybe this turbo too

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...item5ad5820f98

I also want to get to 500whp one day so maybe this too

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T4-T0...item5ace9eb73e

92cxyd

They will work if you block off one of the turbine housing passages it will help with some that lag issue.
Or better yet just get a throttle type valve for one the passages.
Have the valve open at certain boost level to help on the high end.

danmej1

Which turbo would be best for a 450whp d16z6 build and should I just get a 50 trim t3t4 hybrid turbocharger 63 hotside

da_dude

Don't waste your money on an CDM turbo. What is your budget on a turbo? If you want cheap a holset turbo is the best way to go. A real t3/t4 50 trim isn't going to get you to 450 whp on a d-series.

danmej1

Do you go out to foodsmart da dude also what turbo should I get for my 450whp d16z6 build on e85

Poootie

https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/vitara-setup-goes-10-452-%40-island-dragway-2624469/

https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/congrats-joe-dr-d-new-personal-best-10-452%40132-37-a-2624290/

https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/10-54-130-d16-vitara-stock-sleeve-open-diff-xenocron-ectune-2525005/
i believe he has a HC1

danmej1

Thanks for all the threads about your car and showing people that you can run open diff also I will try and find a holset h1c turbo and if I cant I will go with a turbo around this size or borg warner turbo, holset turbo too thanks


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUPER...item3a56936950

da_dude

Not really. I maybe go there once in a blue moon. It isn't how it use to be. As far as turbo goes if you have the cash to spend then get a pte billet 5757e turbo. Otherwise just look into a holset turbo. A hx35, wh1c, h1c, he351cw etc will do. That ebay t4 60-1 isn't even a true 60-1 turbo. Beside, that will be laggy as hell and probably will start leaking oil pretty soon. Anyway I'm rocking a holset hy35 on my d16.

danmej1

Thanks so I probably just go with a holset turbo and maybe do a rebuild on the turbo too thanks for the info

danmej1

Are any of these holset turbos good and how much does it cost to rebuild a holset turbo if their is a problem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOLSE...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Huge-...Q5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HOLSE...Q5fAccessories

Also are these good tires to get grip on a 400whp+ turbo d-series build

http://discounttires.com/product_det...E=&prodID=3497

Please give a fellow Honda-tech member some help so I can start buying stuff

HiProfile

Maybe full boost on a 2.0l b-series, but you won't find any magical turbo that will hit 25+ psi by 4500. A super60 T3 will barely do that. The fact is 400hp on a 1.6L motor will have lots of lag unless you use nitrous - or combine it with a JRSC.

danmej1

Is a gt35r turbo from godspeed any good or Borg Warner Turbo or just stick with one of those holset turbo's and just spray some nitrous to get the turbo spooled.

http://www.godspeedproject.com/store...roducts_id=805

or this

http://www.godspeedproject.com/store...oducts_id=1038

I also have already a dynotune nitrous kit too.

danmej1

Or any of these from this website for my 400+whp build e85 maybe nitrous too

http://www.godspeedproject.com/store...ort=20a&page=1


Please give me some inquiries so I can start soon it would be greatly appreciated

da_dude

Please stick to name brand turbo. Don't alway believe everything you read on the internet. Just get a garrett t3/t4 57 trim and call it a day. It's a turbo that had proven itself over and over again on a 400 hp d-series.

danmej1

How much though aren't garret turbos pretty pricey compared to borg warner and holset.

welfarepc

depends on the dyno and the setup. the 50 trim has more potential flow than a 57 trim.

danmej1

d16z6 stock head stock cam
tial wastegate
greddy bov
turbo undecided
cxracing turbo piping and intercooler
goautoworks cast iron manifold or ebay cast iron manifold
3 inch open downpipe
open dumptube
B&M fpr
B&M gauge
ngk spark plug wires
msd ignition cap and coil
walbro 255lph intank fuel pump 1000cc injectors precision
vitara pistons stock bore and eagle h beam rods, acl bearings, arp rod bolts
arp head studs
cometic head gasket thickness undecided
ebay catchcan
maybe 59300 comp cam
e85 tuning on crome pro at either FullBlownMotorsports, Dbperformance
stage 5 spec clutch undecided maybe 2amd clutch
resurfaced flywheel
autozone lifetime warranty axels
bfg drag radials or mickey thompson slicks with lensos
stock brakes
blox lower control arms
tenzo r rear strut bar
tenzo r front strut bar
stock mounts with either energy suspension bushings or will fill them with polyurethane
nrg torque dampner
no ac,ps,cc
maybe blox intake manifold
boost gauge, air/fuel, oil pressure
stealthmode oil line kit or ebay oil line kit probably go with stealthmode or br fittings maybe earls to
undecided boost controller
undecided if turbo timer is needed also undecided if aem uego air/fuel gauge is needed because I am going to tune the car on a dyno after all
exospeed cam gear
all new gaskets and maybe water pump and oil pump undecided
also maybe oil sandwich feed adapter
Maybe refresh hone and hot tank the block and head
stock underdrive pulley and shifter
fastturbo vacuum adapter
maybe vacum gauge
2 step degree colder spark plugs, synthetic oil for new rebuild undecided on what oil should I use
Also have tokico shocks and springs for front and back
hoping for 400whp or more
all notching and work will be done by me only tuning and maybe hot tank and hone will be done by shop
I hope that can help with the setup part

danmej1

Give me some help on undecided descriptions please thanks

slowhitEJ1

no offence, but it sounds like you need to decide goals first.. it's changed three times just in one page.. first 400, then maybe 500, now 450.. first you say stock head stock cam, then you talk about the 59300 (which is great and you'll definately need for a holset).. the HX35 flows 63 ft^3/min (approx) which is more than enough for 400.. if you're going to use vitaras:
1. i'd got .020 over... this will give you a little bigger bore, but will get rid of any imperfections in the cylinder wall, and give you a fresh surface to start from.
2. use FJ spec custom length rods. the vitara pistons on stock length rods will put your compression around 7.5:1. the FJ rods will put it back up to around 8.5:1 depending on headgasket..

lastly, i'm not sure how the flap would work, because there would be some serious engineering going on, and a lot of tuning that would have to be put in to figure the best rpm for it to open, and just does not seem worth it to me (<-- opinion!). i've seen some people file down the center divider, or you can get a version of (i believe it to be) the HX30 or HY30 with the 9cm^2 exhaust housing. this will help to create faster spool.

the HX35 will work, but lag will SUCK until boost kicks in and rams you in the **** like a train..
last suggestion is a twin scroll manifold. this will pair cylinders 1 and 4, together but separate from 2 and 3. i'm not sure about the physics behind it, but it will decrease lag.




Z6 black and head
Crower Valve Train
Zex 59300 cam

FJ custom length rods
Vitara pistons
hastings rings
acl bearings

HX35
RLD fab Twin scroll mani (RLD is out of business and rightfully so)
2 Tial 38mm Wastegates
3" D/P

Precision 880's
Walbro 255

if you want to know anything else, just ask, i'll help what i can...

danmej1

I think I will stick with the vitara and eagle pistons and rods and the reason why I want them is if I want to go in the 500+whp range then I can and its also been dyno proven by speedfactory. For the turbo I think I will go with a 63 trim so I can get a pretty quick spool time and get good 1/4 mile track times and for the manifold I think I will go with the cast iron manifold from go-autoworks with my tial wastegate. Should I get a borg warner turbo godspeed project turbo, or ebay turbo . Also wondering what tires should I get will bfg street drag radials handle 400whp or more or will I have to get Mickey Thompson slicks and lenso rims, also are these street friendly tires and wheels.

danmej1

Thanks for the help but I can't afford a nice manifold like that right now but I like your setup and also did you do any headwork or just the camshaft and did you get a new oil pump, water pump and notch your block for those rods to, thanks nice ej1!

danmej1

Or maybe a 57 trim but is that to small of a turbo?