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Old 06-13-2004, 11:12 PM
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Default Another Turbo Prelude is out on the streets

Recently I just finished up working on another prelude. Other than the fact that Jonathan used my Drag Gen 2 manifold and 1/2 of the drag upper IC piping, this whole set-up was custom.

My new toys:

Miller 180SD Tig Welder (excuse the clutter in the garage)



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I am in the process of learning welding right now, so to help me is my buddy greg.




But as of my 3rd day welding, here is some of my personal work:

mild steel tig


aluminum tig


Jonathan traveled down from Charlotte, NC and unfortunately brought a whole lot of bad luck with him and a wiring nightmare that looked like a birds nest half full with duck tape, hehe. No offense to Jonathan, but any of you looking to go turbo please take the time to purchase parts that are not second hand and also make sure you are getting the right parts. Unfortunately this job took a few days longer due to the fact that Jonathan unknowingly had AEM cam gears that were defective, a shortage of IC piping, an S-AFC that was non-working, improper fittings for his fuel rail, and injectors that would not fit into the manifold. Luckily however I was able to solve all of these issues by overnighting parts and what not.

Work Performed:

Battery Relocation with custom aluminum battery mount
HID lights and other misc items rewired, soldered, and hidden
Moderate Stereo work - Mounted Amp, ran wires, hid wires, etc.

Attempt to install junk ebay AEM cam gears
Walbro 255 Fuel pump
DSM 450CC injectors with necessary o-ring modification
S-AFC Hack
Greddy Profec-B
Autometer Boost gauge (resoldered all other gauge wiring as well)
Turbo Kit install
Custom intercooler piping
Custom 2.5" downpipe that is A/C compatible
New dual core metal Radiator
Street tuning with Wideband 02 readings

Unfortunately I lost a large amount of the pictures that show the quality in detail of the downpipe that was fabricated as well as the intercooler piping and engine bay. I also all of the pictures that show the whole process of installing a turbo kit, thank my shitty computer for that. Personally, these pictures do not do justice to the install and fabrication that was done. Keep in mind, when using mild steel for downpipes they always get that way when heat hits them, that's why I prefer stainless steel for that extra bling effect. I wish I could have spent an extra hour or two detailing my work, but Jonathan had to head back to Charlotte asap for Hot Import Nights.



Battery relocation


Oil drain


Welding the Oil pan


DP mockup


**Please see note below reguarding the intercooler piping**


Jonathan's car has a lot of wires everywhere.






Wanna race?



You know you want some caddy jewelry



Overall, I am very pleased with the outcome of the set-up. The only downfall of the whole set-up is how we had to run the intercooler piping. Unfortunately Jonathan did not have enough bends to run the piping the way I wanted to and due to time restrictions we had to make due with the materials we had. I know this is not the proper way to run the piping and the sharp bend will hinder the velocity of the air flow by promoting turbulence, but once again this was done due to lack of materials available and time restrictions. I did however test this bend out by hooking it up to a powerful air source and observing the flow. The outcome was not as bad as I had originally suspected. I also would have liked to run it a different way reducing the amount of piping used to combat pressure drop, but the drag gen 2 manifold is not the best design manifold in my books. A battery box will also be needed in order for Jonathan to pass inspections.

As for power, this car hauls ***. Hopefully we will have a video of it up soon, the
best part is when we pull into my driveway and there is smoke pouring out from his calipers due to his brake pads. I would estimate this car in the 230-240whp range as of right now with the moderate street tuning it received. I would have liked to tune it a little bit more, but due to time limitations we didn't. The only restrictions I say are the APC spark plug wires, the sharp bend on the IC piping, the stock exhaust piping after the downpipe, and the AFC-hack. This car can easily hit 260whp I believe with hondata, 2 more psi of boost, some more tuning, and a little bit more custom work done by yours truely.

If anyone is interested in my services please send me a PM.
Old 06-14-2004, 01:44 AM
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Very nice! Must take a lot of patience and dedication to work on other people's cars. I need to take breaks if I work on mine too much, I can't imagine doing it all the time. Love the welds
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Old 06-14-2004, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: Another Turbo Prelude is out on the streets (si2die4)

how much did that Tig welder set u back??... man i'd trade my MIG + $$ for a tig any day..
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looks like yall had a hell of a time
Old 06-14-2004, 06:15 AM
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Setup looks good! Can you ask your buddy greg, what setting he uses to arc his finger like that? ac? dc? does it need to be a hi-freq machine?
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Default Re: Another Turbo Prelude is out on the streets (Raped-Ape)

Wow, that one IC piping looks.....well, weird.

You could try to fabricate a sectioned bend using straight piping. There's alot of welding involved, but I think it would flow better than that thing above. Plus, it'll give you more time to hone those welding skills!

Here's an example of the sectioned bends I'm talking about (sorry about the poor quality, quick Google search):



Check out the intake pipe.
Old 06-14-2004, 08:32 AM
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I am familiar with sectioned bends, that's pretty much how we designed my 3" downpipe.

As I said earlier, we didn't have a choice on his IC piping due to lack of materials. I already know how I am going to redo his intercooler piping if he wants me to redo it for him. The drag manifold is not the best one in the world when it comes to running piping. I wanted to run it into the windshield wiper reservoir hole on the drivers side but in order to do so the IC piping would be right above the manifold or exhaust turbine. That's a big no no.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am familiar with sectioned bends, that's pretty much how we designed my 3" downpipe.

As I said earlier, we didn't have a choice on his IC piping due to lack of materials. I already know how I am going to redo his intercooler piping if he wants me to redo it for him. The drag manifold is not the best one in the world when it comes to running piping. I wanted to run it into the windshield wiper reservoir hole on the drivers side but in order to do so the IC piping would be right above the manifold or exhaust turbine. That's a big no no.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why did you guys have limited time?
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Default Re: Another Turbo Prelude is out on the streets (killa_lude)

He had to have his car ready for hot import nights and needed to drive back to charlotte with it. As I said earlier, he is lucky the car was finished due to the amount of parts that he brought that were non-working.
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yeah you should really have him let you redo the intercooler piping....time should never be an issue, when it comes to doing something right.
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That i/c piping is definately going to affect your performance.
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No **** sherlock. Does anybody read anymore?
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yes.

btw, what did the tig welder run you?
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That's 220V right?

Looks awesome
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I thought you were supposed to use a sealed battery in the trunk or a sealed battery box?

looks good though... nice welds too.
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jon is a show car guy, not a racer...it doesn't really matter to him
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I'm almost ready to give the turbo treatment to my built H23. Keep me posted on how you do.

Also: what mani did you use? Wideband O2?
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Do you have another pic of the oil drain? It looks kinda low to me
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good stuff!
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No other pics of the oil drain, trust me... it is in a perfect location in reguards to height. The battery needs a box, I told Jonathan that so that's his job to find one. He told me what he wanted done, and I did it.

We used a drag gen 2 manifold and I tuned it with my techedge v1.5 wideband.

I got a great deal on my welder and welding equipment. Roughly $2,200 worth of stuff for $1000, keep in mind the welder was only used for a few hours by only one owner.
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Looking good.
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cool cool...good deal on the welder.
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