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Old 01-01-2008, 02:38 PM
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Default Another Mini ram/Shorty (SLS) Oil retun line problem....Help greatly appreciated!!

Yes i know that there are alot of these issues and i have searched but no one really provided decent pictures of the problem. The manifold is an SLS shorty. As you can see using AN-10 fittings it obviously will not fit going directly to the pan straight on. Am i going to have to use barbed fittings? I really do not want to because AN fittings are so much nicer but i see no way of getting them to fit. I do have a AN-10 male flange coming from project zum so that will save me a little room. What about offsetting the pan bung from the turbo flange and running a ss sideways...as long as it's on a constant angle down? Some help on this would be greatly appreciated. Schister66 and PSI2HI if you could check this out that would be great.
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Default Re: Another Mini ram/Shorty (SLS) Oil retun line problem....Help greatly appreciated!! (GSROWNSU)

ditch the an fittings and go with something else. shitty but looks to be the only option
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90 degree of the turbo and then tap the oil pan slightly lower so the line drains down just a tad.
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Default Re: Another Mini ram/Shorty (Boner_Ben)

I had a similar problem and the easiest fix in order to keep the -an fittings is to turn the center section of the turbo out away from the oil pan and then run either a 90 or 45 degree -8 an and a -8 an straight fitting from the oil pan and that should fix your problem. Good luck. Hope this helps.
Old 01-01-2008, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Another Mini ram/Shorty (SLS) Oil retun line problem....Help greatly appreciated!! (GSROWNSU)

i cant believe someone is running in the same problem i have ,had spend 60 dollar so far in fittings and testing and no way,tomorrow im going to another store to get me a 90 degree barb fitting from russell non swivel and see if works,its not funny anymore,by the way im using the same manifold from same company as yours
Old 01-01-2008, 04:25 PM
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the fitting your waiting for its not going to work,i have it already,and its sitting way lower than other fittings,even try a 1/2npt to 90 degre -10an same thing,in top of the 60 spend i bouth the full race drain kit so theres another $100 wasted,they should have tested this thing before selling it to the public
Old 01-01-2008, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Another Mini ram/Shorty (Boner_Ben)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the fitting your waiting for its not going to work,i have it already,and its sitting way lower than other fittings,even try a 1/2npt to 90 degre -10an same thing,in top of the 60 spend i bouth the full race drain kit so theres another $100 wasted,they should have tested this thing before selling it to the public </TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't give up man there's gotta be a decent way SLS is a good company and there are many other shorty manifolds similar so there has to be a decent way to get these return lines to work out.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boner_Ben &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">90 degree of the turbo and then tap the oil pan slightly lower so the line drains down just a tad. </TD></TR></TABLE>

This sounds like it might work...if i clock the turbo back to center or almost slightly AWAY from the pan do you think with a 90 i would still have room for a straight fitting into the oil pan? Should i offset it? One of these correct??

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Default Re: Another Mini ram/Shorty (GSROWNSU)

heres what i did. i hit up lowes for brass fittings and got a 90 degree elbow. that comes out of the bottom of the turbo and it goes into my pan. ive got maybe 3 inches of vertical difference between the turbo exit and the oil pan. i connected them with 5/8s heater hose from autozone thats like a dollar a foot. after a while the hose gets a lil nasty, but **** for the dollar it costs to replace its worth it imo.
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Default Re: Another Mini ram/Shorty (GSROWNSU)

got that one too,didnt work either,even by clocking the turbo still shoting for the botton off oil pan ,now a braided wont work any way it has too be a rubber hose to be able to loop around, a 10 an is too rigid it wont aloud you to do a loop with so little space
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going to try that,thanks
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">got that one too,didnt work either,even by clocking the turbo still shoting for the botton off oil pan ,now a braided wont work any way it has too be a rubber hose to be able to loop around, a 10 an is too rigid it wont aloud you to do a loop with so little space</TD></TR></TABLE>

so you clocked the turbo away from the oil pan and a 90 still didn't work in an-10? I'm trying to visualize it and i can't see how it won't work. Especially if you offset the oil bung on the pan from the 90 that goes on the turbo...did you try that?
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Default Re: Another Mini ram/Shorty (GSROWNSU)

before you buy anymore fittings, get some 5/8" aluminum tubing, 2 an 10 flare nuts and tube sleeves, and borrow someones 37* flare tool and use a hardline.

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you dont need 25 feet obviously, but you just need 5/8" diameter tubing for those nuts to work.
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also dont go clocking the center section too mucch so that the oil drains out on an angle. the feed and return are supposed to be vertical
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Clock the center section towards the block and use a 45 degree fitting off the turbo and they plumb straight into the pan. There's another thread floating around somewhere w/ pics of the fitting and installation.
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Default Re: (PSI2HI)

I had some aluminum tubing laying around and just bent it to the angle I needed and had it welded to the drain flange. I have a 5/8 barb fittting coming off the oil pan. I also clocked the CHRA slightly. Oh, in that first pic it looks like it isnt completely welded but its also welded on the inside.




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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PSI2HI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Clock the center section towards the block and use a 45 degree fitting off the turbo and they plumb straight into the pan. There's another thread floating around somewhere w/ pics of the fitting and installation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

a 45 in AN-10? Because there's no way that 45 that i have will fit into a straight an fitting AND allow room for some hose...is there a different 45 degree fitting you are talking about?
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Theres no way any AN fittings are going to work. You need to go another route.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eh3 93 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Theres no way any AN fittings are going to work. You need to go another route.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I actually really like your idea about having a piece of pipe welded to the flange...how are those barbed fittings tho? I'm assuming you have had your car on the road for a while with the barbed fitting and rubber line...any leaks or problems?
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Get a hard line made. I ran into the same issue, I'll try and get a pic for you.
Pretty much a hard line with and some rubber line will do the job.
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no way with the 45 only my midle finger fits between the pan and the fitting,and no fitting on the oil pan yet
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no way with the 45 only my midle finger fits between the pan and the fitting,and no fitting on the oil pan yet</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are referring to a AN 45 degree fitting correct? Because i agree there's no way to get it to fit. How about a hard line like boosted coupe and eh3 93 are suggesting...that seems like a really nice way to go about doing it.
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I am having the same problem, and this looks to be the best solution.
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fixed
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High temp hose, napa carries. resistant to most chemicals.

No disaster.
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Look what i found...
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