SEFIxCivic

2.4 liters



2.0 vs 2.4 liters

Taken off EVOM... from AMS doing testing on their gt42R kit

http://forums.evolutionm.net/s...pp=15

Overall I am pretty impressed on the spool characteristics of the 2.4 GT42R...

it spools a lot like how our motors would spool a PT67 type turbo. I wonder if it could carry the torque to 9 - 9.5k.

.RTErnie

wow interesting data there. The actual difference from .4 liters of spool time.

SEFIxCivic

The best part is that the setups are supposedly identical beside the bottom end

the 2.0 is their race car

and the 2.4 is their customers car

by reading the thread... the 2.0 is actually run 1-2 psi more, so the difference gained by displacement is actually even more were the boost held equal.

danl

Sic. Gotta love the 4g63.

littlebluecrx

and people are worried about supras in turbo 4

SEFIxCivic

haha, the quick evo guys always talk about the twin crx's and how they pretty much run 9's all day.

B00STFREAKS

To correct a few. Its not a 2.4L its a 2.3L

But none the less. Its a powerhouse

Here is a video of the 826whp dyno pull

2LiterTurboSeR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B00STFREAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To correct a few. Its not a 2.4L its a 2.3L</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct you are sir

According to a guy from SRVidz.com that posts on our local forums says that AMS is going to try and tune the car to 900whp on just boost alone, so I assume that they will be running a shot on the car as they did before.

Gonna make for some damn good videos soon

WHTZ

Sick! Those wastegates look nasty on the top...

Arturbo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littlebluecrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and people are worried about supras in turbo 4 </TD></TR></TABLE>
whats turbo 4?

10secivic

That was sick. Just curious what size are those wastegates on that thing. Also what was the boost level?

.RTErnie

twin 44mm TiAL gates.

boost was prolly near 40+

SEFIxCivic

actually i seen the kit and it uses the 38mm Tial.

Arturbo

You guys should see the manifold tony1 is making for an Evo. Hopefully you'll see it in tunerzine in the months to come..

art

B00STFREAKS

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ~RTErnie~ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">twin 44mm TiAL gates.

boost was prolly near 40+ </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think i read on EVOm they got a log that it was right around 38-39psi.. But yah practically 40psi And it has dual Tial 38mm wastegates


Modified by B00STFREAK at 4:43 AM 12/16/2005

B00STFREAKS

Pictures of the AMS GT42R kit...








From Left to Right. GT42R , T3/t4 50trim , EVO III 16G



More Pictures of this AMS Evo



























826whp all boost no nitrous. This is the view alot of cars are going to see..

ok now i need to go grab some more ---&gt;

Arturbo

Anyone with the AMS kit? It looks really nice, but does anyone have problems with boost creep?

B00STFREAKS

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Arturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone with the AMS kit? It looks really nice, but does anyone have problems with boost creep?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Other then the actual AMS shop car i think this black one is the first GT42R customer car with there kit..... "I think"

Teglove2

I've been to there shop twice in the past year and man are they moving up fast. From my personal experience there they seemed like really F*&(*&( cocky and all of that but maybe its just me. I just can't believe these guys are stuntin all over the honda guys. That is insane power on all boost! When I was at Nopi Nationals at Norwalk about a month and a half ago their silver evo went 9.41!!! We need to start putting some of our power to the ground!
Ryan

SEFIxCivic

Well i wouldn't say they are dominating over the Honda camp. The car has to be able to go rounds before it can win a trophy.

Teglove2

I completely understand that. I was going to make a post about this in fi but I guess I'll just bring it out here. To my knowledge right now in the sport compact car league if you will, I just can't believe how much power these guys are making. I know that the 4g63 is a stout powerplant and can withstand a lot of power but they dont even come close to the flow potential and top end power of vtec equipped cars. I just can't understand how they're making that much power without that design. I understand that there are many designs out there that make great power but this is getting insane. Why arent the honda guys making this much power or MORE?
Ryan

Turbocivic94

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Teglove2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been to there shop twice in the past year and man are they moving up fast. From my personal experience there they seemed like really F*&(*&( cocky and all of that but maybe its just me. I just can't believe these guys are stuntin all over the honda guys. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've noticed a lot of dsm guys are cocky.

SEFIxCivic

i'm sure there are honda guys that make this much power or more. but they are the pro racers, and just don't necessarily need to show off their dyno numbers because in competition what counts is the number you run at the track.

the 4g63 head has huge ports and flows well. with the right cam and turbo provided the head is decent that is all that really matters.

in my opinion the only real advantage a vtec head affords for turbocharging is that the valvetrain with it's rocker arms and billet reinforced cam caps makes the head really stout.

While these number for the Mitsubishi world are really impressive, if you read NABR which is a highly technical 4g63 forum there are quite a bit of problems people run into with their bottom end above 600 whp.

Where as for us, those kinds of numbers are within reached by the common enthusiast without resorting to any exotic engine building techniques. Case in point, I assembled the 600 whp engine in my own car. It is the first engine I've ever assembled and it runs like a clock.

Adi Radoncic

Where is the a/c??

Take that **** home!

Arturbo

There are 800whp hondas on GT42R and c16. They just don't post up those dyno's.