95 accord w/93 h22a
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95 accord w/93 h22a
I got a few questions I need help with
Ive got a turbo set up on my h22a. Full 9 yards. Ic,fmic, tial wastegate, bov. The list goes on.
P28 socketed and chipped with h22a base map.
Do I need knock sensor? If not how do I delete it?
Do I need iab box? the wires are there but no plug. If not how do I delete it?
Do I need to move any pins on my ecu? If so can someone give me a diagram of which pins that need to be moved?
I had it run for a cpl minutes and it w a s rough as **** and cut off. Started it again and same thing. Rough n cut off.
I have a ring terminal that has several wires attached to it. Thats my main ground right? What I done was added a nut and bolt to it and added a longer wire to it to reach my thermostat housing as it was too short to reach there by itself.
If you need more info please ask.
Thanks for reading this and thanks for the help.
Ive got a turbo set up on my h22a. Full 9 yards. Ic,fmic, tial wastegate, bov. The list goes on.
P28 socketed and chipped with h22a base map.
Do I need knock sensor? If not how do I delete it?
Do I need iab box? the wires are there but no plug. If not how do I delete it?
Do I need to move any pins on my ecu? If so can someone give me a diagram of which pins that need to be moved?
I had it run for a cpl minutes and it w a s rough as **** and cut off. Started it again and same thing. Rough n cut off.
I have a ring terminal that has several wires attached to it. Thats my main ground right? What I done was added a nut and bolt to it and added a longer wire to it to reach my thermostat housing as it was too short to reach there by itself.
If you need more info please ask.
Thanks for reading this and thanks for the help.
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
Vague *** thread gets vague *** answers.
do you know if the basemap is setup right? scaled for bigger injectors, map sensor, etc. an "h22 basemap" doesn't tell us ****... is it an na or fi basemap?
and what sort of turbo setup do you have? bigger injectors, map sensor, etc.
we can't help with with little to no info and what little info you gave is vague as ****.
do you know if the basemap is setup right? scaled for bigger injectors, map sensor, etc. an "h22 basemap" doesn't tell us ****... is it an na or fi basemap?
and what sort of turbo setup do you have? bigger injectors, map sensor, etc.
we can't help with with little to no info and what little info you gave is vague as ****.
07-23-2014, 07:51 AM
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
93prelude motor
Garrett turbo/unsure of size
750rc injectors
Basemap set up for f.I.
Greddy bov
Icp/fmic
Tial wastegate
Mahle(think thats spelled correctly) gold pistons
intake manifold vacuum block 6 out ports
No ac
No cruise control. So im thinking thats where im having missing plugs from. Not positive tho.
Battery relocated to trunk bc of bov and icp
Aem fuel rail
Cheap.but usable fpr/no gauge
Aem wideband
Motor works boost gauge
3bar gm map.sensor which ecu is set up for.
But uncertain which is actually my map sensor wires as im using the f22b1 harness bc the h didnt have much of a harness left on it.
It will crank over and stay running for cpl minutes running very rough then cut off.
Is that any better? Im sorry for the way I started this thread I was in a hurry and still am.
Please help.
Thanks for reading.
Garrett turbo/unsure of size
750rc injectors
Basemap set up for f.I.
Greddy bov
Icp/fmic
Tial wastegate
Mahle(think thats spelled correctly) gold pistons
intake manifold vacuum block 6 out ports
No ac
No cruise control. So im thinking thats where im having missing plugs from. Not positive tho.
Battery relocated to trunk bc of bov and icp
Aem fuel rail
Cheap.but usable fpr/no gauge
Aem wideband
Motor works boost gauge
3bar gm map.sensor which ecu is set up for.
But uncertain which is actually my map sensor wires as im using the f22b1 harness bc the h didnt have much of a harness left on it.
It will crank over and stay running for cpl minutes running very rough then cut off.
Is that any better? Im sorry for the way I started this thread I was in a hurry and still am.
Please help.
Thanks for reading.
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07-23-2014, 07:51 AM
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
93prelude motor
Garrett turbo/unsure of size
750rc injectors
Basemap set up for everything.
Greddy bov
Icp/fmic
Tial wastegate
Mahle(think thats spelled correctly) gold pistons
intake manifold vacuum block 6 out ports
No ac
No cruise control. So im thinking thats where im having missing plugs from. Not positive tho.
Battery relocated to trunk bc of bov and icp
Aem fuel rail
Cheap.but usable fpr/no gauge
Aem wideband
Motor works boost gauge
Garrett turbo/unsure of size
750rc injectors
Basemap set up for everything.
Greddy bov
Icp/fmic
Tial wastegate
Mahle(think thats spelled correctly) gold pistons
intake manifold vacuum block 6 out ports
No ac
No cruise control. So im thinking thats where im having missing plugs from. Not positive tho.
Battery relocated to trunk bc of bov and icp
Aem fuel rail
Cheap.but usable fpr/no gauge
Aem wideband
Motor works boost gauge
07-23-2014, 08:05 AM
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
And ill post pics as soon as I find my camera.cause I got another problem that I need help with. Its a hose about the size of a small finger. I see no spot for.it.
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07-23-2014, 08:34 AM
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
Do I need knock sensor?
Do I need iab box? the wires are there but no plug.
Do I need to move any pins on my ecu? If so can someone give me a diagram of which pins that need to be moved?
Originally Posted by Accord
94-95 Accord ECU
Pin - Description - Wire Colour
A1 - INJ1 - BRN
A2 - INJ4 - YEL
A3 - INJ2 - RED
A4 - VTEC SOL - GRN/YEL
A5 - INJ3 - BLU
A6 - O2 Heater ORG/BLK
A7 - Fuel Pump Relay - GRN/BLK
A8 - EMPTY
A9 - IACV - BLK/BLU
A10 - Engine Mount Control - GRN/WHT
A11 - EGR SOL - RED
A12 - Rad Fan Control - GRN
A13 - MIL - LTGRN/RED
A14 - Fuel Injection Air Control - WHT/YEL
A15 - AC Control - RED/BLU
A16 - ALT Control - WHT/GRN
A17 - EMPTY
A18 - FAS - BRN/WHT (TCM)
A19 - IAR Control SOL - ORG/GRN
A20 - PCS - RED/YEL
A21 - ICM1 - YEL/GRN
A22 - EMPTY
A23 - Power Ground 1 - BLK
A24 - Power Ground 2 - BLK
A25 - IGP1 (Power Source) - YEL/BLK
A26 - LG1 (Logic Ground) - BRN/BLK
B1 - IGP2 (Power Source) - YEL/BLK
B2 - LG2 (Logic Ground) - BRN/BLK
B3 - AFS A - WHT RED (TCM)
B4 - AFS B - GRN (TCM)
B5 - AC Pres Switch - RED/WHT
B6 - EMPTY
B7 - AT Gear Pos - lightLTGRN
B8 - Power Steering Pres Sw - GRN
B9 - STS - BLU RED (or BLK/GRN)
B10 - VSS - ORG
B11 - CYP Signal - ORG
B12 - CYP Ground - WHT
B13 - TDC Signal - ORG BLU
B14 - TDC Ground - WHT BLU
B15 - CKP Signal - BLU GRN
B16 - CKP Ground - BLU YEL
D1 - Voltage Back Up - WHT YEL
D2 - Brake Switch - GRN/WHT
D3 - EMPTY
D4 - SCS - RED
D5 - BARO OUT - BLU/WHT
D6 - VTEC Pres Switch - BLU/BLK
D7 - TXD/RXD - lightLTGRN RED
D8 - EMPTY
D9 - ALT FR Signal - WHT RED
D10 - EL (ELD) - GRN RED
D11 - TPS - RED/BLK
D12 - EGR Lift Sensor - WHT/BLK
D13 - ECT - RED/WHT
D14 - O2 Signal - WHT RED
D15 - IAT - RED YEL
D16 - EMPTY
D17 - MAP - WHT YEL
D18 - VREF - lightLTGRN/BLK
D19 - VCC1 (Provides Sensor Voltage) - YEL/WHT
D20 - VCC2 (Provides Sensor Voltage) - YEL BLU
D21 - SG1 (Sensor Ground) - GRN/WHT
D22 - SG2 (Sensor Ground) - GRN BLU
Pin - Description - Wire Colour
A1 - INJ1 - BRN
A2 - INJ4 - YEL
A3 - INJ2 - RED
A4 - VTEC SOL - GRN/YEL
A5 - INJ3 - BLU
A6 - O2 Heater ORG/BLK
A7 - Fuel Pump Relay - GRN/BLK
A8 - EMPTY
A9 - IACV - BLK/BLU
A10 - Engine Mount Control - GRN/WHT
A11 - EGR SOL - RED
A12 - Rad Fan Control - GRN
A13 - MIL - LTGRN/RED
A14 - Fuel Injection Air Control - WHT/YEL
A15 - AC Control - RED/BLU
A16 - ALT Control - WHT/GRN
A17 - EMPTY
A18 - FAS - BRN/WHT (TCM)
A19 - IAR Control SOL - ORG/GRN
A20 - PCS - RED/YEL
A21 - ICM1 - YEL/GRN
A22 - EMPTY
A23 - Power Ground 1 - BLK
A24 - Power Ground 2 - BLK
A25 - IGP1 (Power Source) - YEL/BLK
A26 - LG1 (Logic Ground) - BRN/BLK
B1 - IGP2 (Power Source) - YEL/BLK
B2 - LG2 (Logic Ground) - BRN/BLK
B3 - AFS A - WHT RED (TCM)
B4 - AFS B - GRN (TCM)
B5 - AC Pres Switch - RED/WHT
B6 - EMPTY
B7 - AT Gear Pos - lightLTGRN
B8 - Power Steering Pres Sw - GRN
B9 - STS - BLU RED (or BLK/GRN)
B10 - VSS - ORG
B11 - CYP Signal - ORG
B12 - CYP Ground - WHT
B13 - TDC Signal - ORG BLU
B14 - TDC Ground - WHT BLU
B15 - CKP Signal - BLU GRN
B16 - CKP Ground - BLU YEL
D1 - Voltage Back Up - WHT YEL
D2 - Brake Switch - GRN/WHT
D3 - EMPTY
D4 - SCS - RED
D5 - BARO OUT - BLU/WHT
D6 - VTEC Pres Switch - BLU/BLK
D7 - TXD/RXD - lightLTGRN RED
D8 - EMPTY
D9 - ALT FR Signal - WHT RED
D10 - EL (ELD) - GRN RED
D11 - TPS - RED/BLK
D12 - EGR Lift Sensor - WHT/BLK
D13 - ECT - RED/WHT
D14 - O2 Signal - WHT RED
D15 - IAT - RED YEL
D16 - EMPTY
D17 - MAP - WHT YEL
D18 - VREF - lightLTGRN/BLK
D19 - VCC1 (Provides Sensor Voltage) - YEL/WHT
D20 - VCC2 (Provides Sensor Voltage) - YEL BLU
D21 - SG1 (Sensor Ground) - GRN/WHT
D22 - SG2 (Sensor Ground) - GRN BLU
Originally Posted by Prelude
OBDI 93-95 H22a
Layout
A1->A25--B1->B15--Blank--D1->D21
A2->A26--B2->B16--Blank--D2->D22
Pin---Color---------Desc.
A1----brn-----------Injector #1
A2----yel-----------Injector #4
A3----red1---------Injector #2
A4----grn/yel------VTEC Solenoid Valve
A5----blu-----------Injector #3
A6----or/wht-------HO2S heater coil
A7----grn/blk1-----PGM-FI Main Relay coil
A8----grn/blk2-----Shorted to A7
A9----blk/blu-------IAC Valve
A10
A11----red2--------EGR Control Solenoid
A12----blu/red-----Condenser Fan Relay
A13----blu/wht-----MIL
A14
A15----red/blu-----A/C Clutch Relay
A16----wht/grn-----Alternator
A17----pink---------IAB Solenoid Valve
A18----orn/red-----FAS (A/T)
A19----wht----------Intake Control Solenoid Valve
A20----red/grn-----EVAP Purge Control Solenoid
A21----yel/grn1----ICM
A22----yel/grn2----Shorted to A21
A23----blk1---------GND
A24----blk2---------GND
A25----yel/blk------PGM-FI Main Relay (power)
A26----blk/red------VTEC Pressure Switch (GND)
B1----yel/blk--------PGM-FI Main Relay (power)
B2----brn/blk-------GND
B3----orn1----------AFSA (A/T)
B4----pnk-----------AFSB (A/T)
B5----blu/blk--------To A/C Switch
B6
B7----lt grn---------ATP PN Gear Posisiton (A/T)
B8----red/grn-------PSP Switch
B9----blu/red-------Starter Cut Relay
B10---orn2----------VSS
B11---orn3----------CYP
B12---wht-----------CYP
B13---orn/blu-------TDC
B14---wht/blu-------TDC
B15---blu/grn-------CKP
B16--blu/yel--------CKP
D1----wht/yel-------Battery
D2----grn/wht1-----Brake Switch
D3----red/blu-------KS
D4----brn/wht------SCS
D5
D6----lt blu or lt grn-VTEC Pressure Switch
D7----lt grn/red----Data Link Connector
D8
D9----wht/red------ALT
D10---grn/blk------ELD
D11--red/blk-------TP Sensor
D12---wht/blk------EGR Valve Lift Sensor
D13---yel/blu-------ECT Sensor
D14---wht----------HO2S Sense
D15---red/yel------IAT Sensor
D16
D17---wht/blu------MAP Sensor
D18---lt grn/blk----VREF (A/T)
D19---red/wht------EGR Valve Lift Sensor
D20---yel/wht------TP Sensor
D21---blu/wht------MAP Sensor
D22---grn/wht2----TP Sensor
Layout
A1->A25--B1->B15--Blank--D1->D21
A2->A26--B2->B16--Blank--D2->D22
Pin---Color---------Desc.
A1----brn-----------Injector #1
A2----yel-----------Injector #4
A3----red1---------Injector #2
A4----grn/yel------VTEC Solenoid Valve
A5----blu-----------Injector #3
A6----or/wht-------HO2S heater coil
A7----grn/blk1-----PGM-FI Main Relay coil
A8----grn/blk2-----Shorted to A7
A9----blk/blu-------IAC Valve
A10
A11----red2--------EGR Control Solenoid
A12----blu/red-----Condenser Fan Relay
A13----blu/wht-----MIL
A14
A15----red/blu-----A/C Clutch Relay
A16----wht/grn-----Alternator
A17----pink---------IAB Solenoid Valve
A18----orn/red-----FAS (A/T)
A19----wht----------Intake Control Solenoid Valve
A20----red/grn-----EVAP Purge Control Solenoid
A21----yel/grn1----ICM
A22----yel/grn2----Shorted to A21
A23----blk1---------GND
A24----blk2---------GND
A25----yel/blk------PGM-FI Main Relay (power)
A26----blk/red------VTEC Pressure Switch (GND)
B1----yel/blk--------PGM-FI Main Relay (power)
B2----brn/blk-------GND
B3----orn1----------AFSA (A/T)
B4----pnk-----------AFSB (A/T)
B5----blu/blk--------To A/C Switch
B6
B7----lt grn---------ATP PN Gear Posisiton (A/T)
B8----red/grn-------PSP Switch
B9----blu/red-------Starter Cut Relay
B10---orn2----------VSS
B11---orn3----------CYP
B12---wht-----------CYP
B13---orn/blu-------TDC
B14---wht/blu-------TDC
B15---blu/grn-------CKP
B16--blu/yel--------CKP
D1----wht/yel-------Battery
D2----grn/wht1-----Brake Switch
D3----red/blu-------KS
D4----brn/wht------SCS
D5
D6----lt blu or lt grn-VTEC Pressure Switch
D7----lt grn/red----Data Link Connector
D8
D9----wht/red------ALT
D10---grn/blk------ELD
D11--red/blk-------TP Sensor
D12---wht/blk------EGR Valve Lift Sensor
D13---yel/blu-------ECT Sensor
D14---wht----------HO2S Sense
D15---red/yel------IAT Sensor
D16
D17---wht/blu------MAP Sensor
D18---lt grn/blk----VREF (A/T)
D19---red/wht------EGR Valve Lift Sensor
D20---yel/wht------TP Sensor
D21---blu/wht------MAP Sensor
D22---grn/wht2----TP Sensor
I had it run for a cpl minutes and it w a s rough as **** and cut off. Started it again and same thing. Rough n cut off.
I have a ring terminal that has several wires attached to it. Thats my main ground right? What I done was added a nut and bolt to it and added a longer wire to it to reach my thermostat housing as it was too short to reach there by itself.
I have a ring terminal that has several wires attached to it. Thats my main ground right? What I done was added a nut and bolt to it and added a longer wire to it to reach my thermostat housing as it was too short to reach there by itself.
93prelude motor
Garrett turbo/unsure of size
750rc injectors
Basemap set up for everything.
Greddy bov
Icp/fmic
Tial wastegate
Mahle(think thats spelled correctly) gold pistons
intake manifold vacuum block 6 out ports
No ac
No cruise control. So im thinking thats where im having missing plugs from. Not positive tho.
Battery relocated to trunk bc of bov and icp
Aem fuel rail
Cheap.but usable fpr/no gauge
Aem wideband
Motor works boost gauge
Garrett turbo/unsure of size
750rc injectors
Basemap set up for everything.
Greddy bov
Icp/fmic
Tial wastegate
Mahle(think thats spelled correctly) gold pistons
intake manifold vacuum block 6 out ports
No ac
No cruise control. So im thinking thats where im having missing plugs from. Not positive tho.
Battery relocated to trunk bc of bov and icp
Aem fuel rail
Cheap.but usable fpr/no gauge
Aem wideband
Motor works boost gauge
Saturated or peak/hold? Have you sized them correctly in your tuning software? There are several values that need to be tuned in for the idle on larger injectors.
Who made the basemap?
-skipping stuff-
Go back to the stock FPR or get a name brand one.
You seem like you are lost in the sauce, even by my noobie standards. I'm not sure you will get a lot of help in this forum. You need to do your own, independent, research first. The wild "My car doesn't run, fix it" threads never pan out.
07-23-2014, 11:44 AM
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Fremanana, you dont have to be so rude. Im giving you all the info I can think of at the time. Yesthe base map tune is for the 750 rc injectors.
Ive done allot of reasearch. Its what got.me where I am at this point now.
Dots....lol smart ***,
A6 and a11. Already swapped them last night.
Ive done allot of reasearch. Its what got.me where I am at this point now.
Dots....lol smart ***,
A6 and a11. Already swapped them last night.
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Fremanana, you dont have to be so rude. Im giving you all the info I can think of at the time. Yesthe base map tune is for the 750 rc injectors.
Ive done allot of reasearch. Its what got.me where I am at this point now.
Dots....lol smart ***,
A6 and a11. Already swapped them last night.
Ive done allot of reasearch. Its what got.me where I am at this point now.
Dots....lol smart ***,
A6 and a11. Already swapped them last night.
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
A basemap (note the word base. As in, foundation. As in, starting point) is only used to get you to the tuner. Once you get to the tuner he will fine tune everything using an EMS (engine management system). If you don't have one of these GTFO and go get one.
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
you seriously need to calm the **** down before I lock this and ban you...
you have changed so much on your car that anything could be causing the issue(s). we can't use mystical powers and guess what is wrong over the internet, we are relying on you to take our advice and then go through a certain area of the car to check for problems and report back.
if you don't want to take the time to help us help you then I suggest you take your car and your attitude to the nearest shop and let the professionals do it
you have changed so much on your car that anything could be causing the issue(s). we can't use mystical powers and guess what is wrong over the internet, we are relying on you to take our advice and then go through a certain area of the car to check for problems and report back.
if you don't want to take the time to help us help you then I suggest you take your car and your attitude to the nearest shop and let the professionals do it
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Ill get the turbo numbers tomorrow. I just know it's a Garrett.
I had to use the f22 harness b.c. the h harness was hacked to hell and back.
I removed ac, cruise control box. Don't remember how many plugs either of those held. Or vac hoses.
Base map is set up for everything I have. I know it's a base map. I understand that.
Ill take some pics tomorrow and show theturbo and the empty plugs that are left over. They are the passenger side. Its like 4 or 5 plugs.
Using the h harness should be all plug n play right? Or was I misled on that.?
I'm researching as much as I can.
And I ask for the smart *** comments be left off my post by other members.
Thanks
And I bought that turbo wire a few years ago so forgive me if I don't remember the numbers or anything on it.
I had to use the f22 harness b.c. the h harness was hacked to hell and back.
I removed ac, cruise control box. Don't remember how many plugs either of those held. Or vac hoses.
Base map is set up for everything I have. I know it's a base map. I understand that.
Ill take some pics tomorrow and show theturbo and the empty plugs that are left over. They are the passenger side. Its like 4 or 5 plugs.
Using the h harness should be all plug n play right? Or was I misled on that.?
I'm researching as much as I can.
And I ask for the smart *** comments be left off my post by other members.
Thanks
And I bought that turbo wire a few years ago so forgive me if I don't remember the numbers or anything on it.
07-23-2014, 08:09 PM
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
The numbers on the housings won't help us, they only indicate the housing family, material, and casting batch.
look for a metal tag on the center section or the back of the compressor housing, the numbers will tell us what the turbo is.
if it doesn't have a tag you'll have to pull the covers and measure the inducer and exducer of both wheels with a set of calipers.
also photos of the turbo would help.
the reason you got smartass answers was vague info, bumping it tons of times, then pulling an attitude when we told you what you need to check.
look for a metal tag on the center section or the back of the compressor housing, the numbers will tell us what the turbo is.
if it doesn't have a tag you'll have to pull the covers and measure the inducer and exducer of both wheels with a set of calipers.
also photos of the turbo would help.
the reason you got smartass answers was vague info, bumping it tons of times, then pulling an attitude when we told you what you need to check.
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Ok wantboost. Thank you for that info of what everyone needed.
I do apologize for my attitude towards everyone. Can't accept apology then it's your problem.
I know of the tag you speak of. It's on there and I'll get you all those numbers tomorrow. Also some pics of what I've got done and what's missing. Thanks for reading this.
And btw I don't mean to bump so many times n I apologize for that as well.
I do apologize for my attitude towards everyone. Can't accept apology then it's your problem.
I know of the tag you speak of. It's on there and I'll get you all those numbers tomorrow. Also some pics of what I've got done and what's missing. Thanks for reading this.
And btw I don't mean to bump so many times n I apologize for that as well.
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Re: 95 accord w/93 h22a
yeah have to get the exhaust fixed befor I can install it the flange on it was for a different car that I was going to use. ty for noticing.
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there is the tag for the turbo. ill add a cpl more pics to the next post.
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[/IMG]there is the tag for the turbo. ill add a cpl more pics to the next post.