patroick67

I have been building this h22 since i got back from iraq, I am trying to figure out the best turbo to run, I don't want a ton of lag because this will be driven on the street also price really isn't a concern so any advice would be great the engine is as follows.

H22 dart mid sleeves
87mm cp pistons
eagle rods 3/8 hardware
balance shaft elimination
manual timing tensioner
h22a head with skunk2 valvetrain
skunk2 stage 2 turbo cams
skunk2 cam gears
skunk2 intake manifold
2200cc injectors
neukin t3 ram horn manfold
44mm tial waste gate
etc

I believe this will give you a decent idea of my build any advice would be great as this is my first turbo car build thanks in advance

megomaniac

gtx3582r if you can afford it. I can't. cheaper would be something juornal bearing 67mm.

Whiterice-gsr

any turbo that will get u to 700 horsepwer is going to have lag man, its something u gotta deal with with goals that high. is this a drag car setup? 700hp street car is insane. my opinion would be to shoot for 500 cuz u can retain good driveability and still have full boost somewhere around 4000 rpm.

00_EKHatch

^^All this, and if you are wanting close 700 and not really over it, I've seen a GT35R on the same setup you have make 660hp on C16. Not sure if it was maxed out or not, but you can still have good drivability with it. And also you might want to look into a top mount if you want to make over 700.

patroick67

I am hoping for 700 on e85 I was looking at gtx3582r, precision 6766 or 6265. I kno that would be pushing the 6265

sanman000719

6765
s400sx

both will make it man

LS AzZkIkr

A 6266 should get you there with the right supporting mods, which it sounds like you are the right track.

patroick67

Thanks for the input guys, I am still trying to decide, i want to buy this turbo and get this car running by the beginning of next month!

92redhatch

6262 cheap proven reliable

BadBB6

What did you end up going with? I am working on a similar build and was considering the 6266 but i am going to be on the street 90% of the time so i want something that will spool at decent RPM range.

Hidenplanvew

wouldnt 700 on the street just be a waste of tires?

snobordboy

Depends on the tires you run. Drag radials will hook up good, but wear out super fast. Street tires, you are only getting traction in 4th and 5th gear, and hopefully pointed in a straight clear line. At least that is my thoughts after being on the street in a 640 whp Prelude.

extralargenog

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Stay away from the 6262, its pressed for 7. A 3582 isnt going to make 7 period (GTX different story). Youll need a GT3567R if you want 7 out of that deal and insist on a "GT" turbo.

If It were me, Id have a 6766 on the **** if int he market for a new turbo.

Id ditch the stage 2 cams if I were you too... At most go PRo 1s....... I have a T04ZR (T4 .81 hotside)and it lights up violently and has full boost at 5500, with great tq (578 by 6300) and driveability out of boost and coming into it. aaaaand it pulls to 9K. See sig for power. Its maxxed. Im on stock cams too. I got it brand new in the box for so cheap, I just cant bring myself to change it, but the 6766 is THE ONE for the H, especially built like yours. Trust me. Youll be glad you did.

The T3 Hotside hurts the H. Run a big one (ESPECIALLY IF HTE MANI IS DIVIDED AND PAIRED AND YOURE RUNNING A SPLIT HOUSING). Buddy has the same setup you have basically... AFI Topmount... but 6265.. The .81 T3 (open) hotside is choking it. Its a H SERIES, not a B16. It will kick the **** out of a .81 or bigger turbine housing.

That said I dead hook 450 in second... 550ish in 3rd and 700 in fourth on M&H 235/60 15s in the accord... Theres stuff helping make it work, but walking on Whippled Mustang garbage that dead hooks on the hit is priceless.

BadBB6

Yeah everyone says the stock cams are the best but i dont have a jdm motor how much power will the usdm cams hold? How about the stock dizzy as well? Full boost by 5500 sounds good thats the area i want to be in. My plan was to get two tunes one for pump gas and one for race gas. I hear of people making around 500 on pump which would be more than enough for the street. This is my first turbo build i came from the V8 side haha so any help is greatly appreciated guys

extralargenog

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I making 520 on 17.5 ish PSI on pump 92. JDM cams are NEGLIGIBLY any different than USDMs Im NOT running the Type S cams. Just run of the mill cams out of a Crate Jap motor.

Made 620 on the old turbo setup on stock JDM dizzy, didnt even change the cap and rotor... Just hap it came off the crate motor.

Im not saying stock cams are BEST, but the cams you have are uneccessary, and some people will Fight about it, I wont. Pro ones would be a better choice, and I know theyd help my setup in tthe middle and up top a LITTLE bit but still... Im going the vanilla KISS approach. Its working for me.

BadBB6

Thanks man i really appreciate the good info. I think i will just go with the stock cams and dizzy for now, i can always change down the road if i feel the need.

per4mance

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I beg to differ. We just made 709.8 hp on a 3582R just two months ago. It was a 2.0 Gsr in a red ek hatch and mace tuned on e85. So a 3582R will make that power with the right combination of parts. Here is the thread.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/2-0-liter-gsr-civic-e85-gt3582r-ac-709-8hp-mased-tune-3042802/

extralargenog

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Beg to differ all you want,

The reason its falling off (The 3582r in your video) is the compressor is ****ing DONE LOL..... its as fluke you made 7 on that wheel period LOL, do you know how to read a compressor map? DO it.


Ive never seen a 3582r make that power. On anything. ITs a magic 3582r for sure. Still, 99.999999 perent of anyone whose ever used one makes around 630 before maxxing it out, and its so out of breath up there and making so much heat its NOT the correct turbo for this app, PERIOD.


But neat, never seen one make 7. Dream dyno? You do know 11.5 :1 is a lil different than 9:1 right? Right?

patroick67

I have a 6765 bb turbo on the car now. I actually am pulling those skunk2 cams out and putting stock ones back in it. I bought it brand new for a grand which I thought was a good deal. I have been having a lot of problems getting it on the road though. Where do you think I should rev this thing too? I am using eagle rods and weisco pistons with the standard arp hardware. I am having a ton of trouble tuning this thing but haven't messed with it bc I am waiting for a chasebay engine harness.

patroick67

Setup changed a bit from up top

extralargenog

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Id have bought the 6765 for a G too, Im jealous of that ****.... I got the T04ZR for 700 BNIB too afew years ago... RIGHT when all the BW billet stuff was Just coming out mainstream. Precision wasnt there with the billet stuff yet, but they were right after.

Thats why I bought it. Its a mean mother****er on the H. Lights up fast and ****in HARD. youll make 850 on stock cams with that turbo. No problem

What size hot side? Divided?

I have Eagles and 3/8 ARPs and CPS...

I rev it to 8500-9K depending. No need for more with the H. RPM =ruins peoples motors. Mines been making 750 plus for over 2 years and I beat the **** out of it :O) It will make a **** ton of TQ :O)

per4mance

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Lol Ok bud. I know exactly how to read a compressor map. I have been in many builds that have exceeded what the compressor maps say a turbo will do. And since you are on the defense I will leave it at that. I have proved my point on what that turbo is capable of. Yes it was falling off up top but the numbers are there and the dyno it was on is no "magic dyno" lol. Its cool man that you have your own point to prove I understand.

extralargenog

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The "point" is that the 3582 is a joke to TRY and make 700 Wheel on... PERIOD, I dont need to be defensive sir, Im correct.

Its NOT a viable candidate to make 700 on. LOL.

You must have some ****ing fairy dust and magic beans or some **** going on 'cause it aint Mase....Ask him. Ask anyone... That thing is DONE.. Im not exactly new either, and have seen more than a few of those used. Great it might have made 7 so far out of its efficiency range that by some fluke it made what it made.

Its (the compressor) DONE on the car your spewing about, and youre arguing that too, falling on its face (hence the pressure drop) and questionably making BARELY 7.

Ya. Thats the turbo I want to make 7 on... Derrrrrrp. Troll on. The fact you tout a 35(82)R as a viable turbo to make 700 Wheel on... On its face getting raped says enough about what you know. The fact you argue still is just comedic genius

Thank you sir.

patroick67

I bought a vband exhaust housing right after i bought that turbo it was only a .64ar housing that and it is a t3 turbo since i didn't want to have to buy a new manifold, however I believe it will still hit the 700hp mark that I am trying to reach. I am running a neukin manifold and I think it will do just fine. However I probably will upgrade the exhaust housing down the road because it really is going to kill it for me. I did find a set of stock h22a cams that I am going to throw in the engine because I just couldn't see messing with those skunk2 stage 2 turbo camshafts especially since I haven't ever seen anyone try and make actual good numbers with them. I will eventually upgrade to pro 1 cams. I am actually running the exact same tires widths as you, however this is in a eg civic so I don't believe ill be getting nearly as good traction as you are. My next big worry is if the mfactory gear set will actually hold up or fail where it seems like alot of them do that will most likely be my next project for the winter.

popwars123

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new precision 6466 appears to be insane! also, thought of the forced performance units at all such as the hta 3586 or 37?