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Old 11-03-2006, 04:29 PM
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Default 500+ DC2 k24/k20 daily Need advice before $$ spent

Wut do you think of my build. Ive been on HT for years and had a boosted 300 whp GSR but this will be my first time going to K-series. My goals are 500+ whp and 350-400 tq. Price range is about $9-10k for the kit and motor. Ive priced most of the parts I need in this build (mainly from HT, Club-RSX, and K20a.org FS forums) but if anything isnt the right price please inform me so I can edit my list so im not lowballing too bad.

.:: Engine ::.

k24a1 block $300
Benson sleeved block
Benson balanced and micropolished crank
CP Pistons and rings
Pauter rods
OEM bearings
Gaskets as required
Blueprint and assembly
Built to handle 700 HP $3600
k20a2 Head $800
APR Headstuds $100
Hasport Mounts $500
k20 intermediate shaft $50
k20 axels $150
k20 wiring harness $50
rsx shifter box & cables $50
rsx throttle cable $50
aftermarket fuel regulator $100
rsx brake booster hose $25
radiator hose $25
Starter $50
Timing belt $100

.:: Transmission ::.
rsx type-s 6 speed Trans. /w quaife LSD $1400
Action 2MS 6 puck clutch (rated 500 whp) $400
ACT ProLite Flywheel $200

.:: Turbo ::.

GT35R BALL BEARING T4 TURBO $1000
Revhard turbo manifold $300
RevHard 3in downpipe $150
1000 cc injectors $250
uni. core intercooler + piping $300
Blow off valve $75
Tial wastegate $130
Turbo XS dualstage boost controller $250
Hondata K-pro /w ecu $900
Walbro 255 lph fuel pump $80
gm 3 bar map sensor $40
Z10 catchcan Kit $50


This will be going into my DC2 and anything else that I need for my conversion would help me make my list. Goals 550-600 whp and 350-400 tq but 500whp 350 tq daily driven. I think everything adds up to about $11500 with the trans. and buying some parts used some new if i cant find it used. Also with this much money im putting up I would need this to last atleast 2-3 years. Tuning will be done by Evans of course, and any advice on displacement of the motor will help before I send the block away for sleeving and the build.

Been savin up for 1 1/2 years workin in the service for this project.. finally closing in on a lil more then what I need for this. Including the tune. I just want to finalize the list so I can have the motor in and boosted before 2007 or in JAN.
Old 11-03-2006, 06:06 PM
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I'm not sure what your asking... at one point it sounds like your selling those parts and then at the next though it seems as if your saying this is what parts are going to cost you and yet even then, it makes me wonder where your going to find these parts for the prices you have listed... ?!
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umm just read the first and last part again.. hopefully you'll understand. And the prices are just figures unless someone tells me they wont let that certain part go for that price. Thats why I said if its too low for the market price ill change it. Im gettin ready to buy these parts and I wanted some1 to confirm the build and give me any tips of things I might need as well.
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why after spending all of that money would you use a Revhard cast log manifold....that sounds to me like a stupid decision....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why after spending all of that money would you use a Revhard cast log manifold....that sounds to me like a stupid decision....</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why after spending all of that money would you use a Revhard cast log manifold....that sounds to me like a stupid decision....</TD></TR></TABLE>


ill 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th that full race and Arizona force induction make some nice lookin K turbo manifolds.....

Arizona Forced Induction





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6 speed is a no-no for FI & don't even bother with stock cv's as they will last 1,2 minutes on a 500+ whp motor.
Do yourself a fovor & talk to Ron @ IPS before you waste alot of money on a ticking time bomb.
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Also on a k24 turning as much as it does with the tall stroke & that much hp you'll need more than just a type-s oil pump. Contact ERL for a modified s2000 pump & use the stamped k24 pump. Take it from me I spun a bearing due to bad oiling on a mild built k24 pushing 500 whp on pump.
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GT35R BALL BEARING T4 TURBO $1000 -yes
Revhard turbo manifold $300 -hell no
RevHard 3in downpipe $150 -no
1000 cc injectors $250 -yes
uni. core intercooler + piping $300 -maybe
Blow off valve $75 -what kind?
Tial wastegate $130 -yes
Turbo XS dualstage boost controller $250 -maybe not needed
Hondata K-pro /w ecu $900 -good choice
Walbro 255 lph fuel pump $80 - good choice
gm 3 bar map sensor $40 -needed to run more boost so good choice
Z10 catchcan Kit $50- ok

ok so that is what i think of the turbo kit, it starts off real good then just goes down hill

to actually make good and efficent power you are going to need good and efficent power making ITEMS!

full race manifold
full race downpipe

rev hard manifold ARENT a good efficent flowing manifold, however full race is the best like the other poster said all that money and you are cheaping out on the most important part of all THE TURBO KIT.

you should just scrap what you wanna do and get a full race turbo kit and save yourself some troubles

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spend the money on one of those AFI or Full Race manifolds rather than wasting your money on the RevHard one...Make sure you get Tial accesories (BOV and WG) dont cheap out there, and also be sure your IC is large enough....PTE 600hp would be my suggestion
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Full Race is nice and all, but there are plenty of other good quality peices out there...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


ill 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th that full race and Arizona force induction make some nice lookin K turbo manifolds.....

Arizona Forced Induction

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im still wondering the price on this manifold. I was thinking of just getting a Full-Race manifold but for $1300 thats kinda steep.. then again I want this to last atleast 2-3 years. Ill be looking into getting the Full-Race Stage 3 prostreet.. although, personally i find it cheaper to peice together a kit. But thanks for the constructive criticism and ill be contacting Ron and ERL to get everything straightened out.
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steep?..

a 500hp isn't going be cheap. do it right the first time or do it again twice..

stock axles might not cut it, look for DSS axles or other type of K20 upgrade axles.
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500whp isnt expensive....most of these bandwagon FI trolls think ya need these overly expensive turbos, and manifolds...when you can still make that power with a log manifold...or with a non sc61, or t3/67, or whatever this months bandwagon turbo is going to be.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by quik sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">500whp isnt expensive....most of these bandwagon FI trolls think ya need these overly expensive turbos, and manifolds...when you can still make that power with a log manifold...or with a non sc61, or t3/67, or whatever this months bandwagon turbo is going to be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you made 500whp yet? once you make 500whp you want 600whp, and so on...buy what you want the first time around, it will be cheaper in the long run.
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There's no point in having 500hp for daily driving in a Honda. Keep the power conservative, and then turn it up at the track. More power just makes more wear which just break things faster when it's not needed at all for driving on the street.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxheat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

im still wondering the price on this manifold. I was thinking of just getting a Full-Race manifold but for $1300 thats kinda steep.. then again I want this to last atleast 2-3 years. Ill be looking into getting the Full-Race Stage 3 prostreet.. although, personally i find it cheaper to peice together a kit. But thanks for the constructive criticism and ill be contacting Ron and ERL to get everything straightened out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can pm me if you want info...I don't want to post that info on a technical forum. We will be posting some k series specials on manifolds and full kits sometime next week in the sponsor forum
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Id like to know where your getting some of your parts that cheap
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboJesse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Have you made 500whp yet? once you make 500whp you want 600whp, and so on...buy what you want the first time around, it will be cheaper in the long run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not very smart...having hurt performance by using an over sized turbo, just cause ya want to crank a ****.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxheat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. My goals are 500+ whp and 350-400 tq.</TD></TR></TABLE>

b18 stock sleeves
pistons / rods
valvetrain/itr cams
good manifold/turbo combo

tuning, tuning, tuning

not need to swap a K2x in for that hp goal.
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is it me or are your prices really low...

What kind of BOV are you really going to get for 75$... Ebay?? Thats not the BOV id want on a 1000$ turbo........ Where can you get a K series block for 300$? Legit?? Where can you get a k20 wiring harness for 50$? or rsx shifter for 50$? Or K series starter for 50$?

Take all the prices you expect to pay and add 50%. thats what it will cost in the end with shipping, fluids, gaskets, and all the tons of misc ****.

What Tial WG are you getting for 130$? I suggest you get a 44mm waste gate which is more than double that price.. I dont know where you got 130$ from... My GM map sensor was 80$ also and Id be willing to be $$ that the Z10 catch can system is way more than 50$ ....considering one component (the plug) in that system alone is 30$ shipped

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thats what i was saying, the turbo kit starts off good, but then goes way down hill

that IMO isnt even remotely a 500whp turbo kit.


you are going to need some top notch components to run a good setup, as thus far it isnt looking to great.
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if you want 500hp with boost I would just stay with the B series. If you are dead set on the K I would use a crank that will let you run a wider rod.
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