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Old 12-19-2004, 06:33 AM
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OK, well heres the situation, running alll kinds of different maps for uberdata and they are all running pretty much the same on my car way freakin rich, i mean theres no way that if i go in and change my injector size and burn that its gonna be this far off, so ive got potential for two problems, either i installed uberdata wrong or the injectors wrong. If you can think of nething else please let me know. however i did this in steps on purpose, for troublshooting like this, and i had uberdata installed first, running stock and it worked, so im guessing its the injectors, but my questoin, what could i have done wrong on the injectors??, i guess the reisistors? maybe they dont have a good connectoin?, do they have polairty???, just looking for some help on locating the problem
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (blackcivic95)

Even if you wired the resistors wrong, it would still run... but it wouldn't last. Did you use inline resistors or the factory "box" type? Also, have you tried to create a basemap from scratch instead of using someone else's tune? There s a few links around that explain in detail how to create one. I'd suggest doing that.
Do you have any check engine lights that you notice? I just want to find out a little more info about what setup your running, what engine/ecu, and how you've got the Uberdata .bin setup.
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used inline 10watt/10ohm resitors and it RUNS just not well, and runs about the same even if i subract 5 10 even 20% fuel, have tried making basemaps from sctrach, all kinds, 1.66 1.70, stockgsr import p06 and uncheck all vtec stuff, or stockls import p06, every combo u can think of, its a d15b7 motor and a p06 ecu, bump for more info and help
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (blackcivic95)

and throwin a code43, fuel supply system
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (blackcivic95)

Did you solder the resistors?
Mine threw code 43 too, but after I solder them and made sure there secured so they can't vibrate it was fine.

Before I did all that code 43 would pop up only when I'm driving & if I turned the car off it'll go away and coming back when ever it wanted it could be in 5 min. or 2 days.

But solder your resistors & secure them, it sure solved that problem for me. Never seen code 43 since then.
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that actually sounds EXACTLy like what is happening, i did solder them but maybe i didnt get a good connection, ill try again.
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (blackcivic95)

same thing happens to me,code 43,code16 once in a blue,turn the car off and everythign would be back to normal then 2-3 days later same thing, of course now they are soldered so life is good again lol.
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i guess ill re solder them maybe i didnt get a real good connection somwhere
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get a resistor box, much easier to do.
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (blackcivic95)

Don't be scared to take away fuel as long as you have a wideband to check out the real AF's. I had to take away 50% in the higher vaccum areas to not idle in 10.0-1. this happened even with stock injectors it was because my FPR could not handle the new fuel pump and was delivering a higher fuel pressure. you may want to check that if the soldering thing doesn't work
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (adseguy)

ok still in a end took a look at all the connectoins today, seemd to like just fine to me, is there anyway to check the connectoins w/ a mutimeter just to make sure?? but if its not the connections then what in the world is wrong.
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ever heard of a cold solder? It's when the solder doesn't exactly soldify correctly and has bad conductivity properties. You can usually tell this by just looking at the sodler and if it's not glistening, but instead dull you may have that situation. Just re-solder. Yes I'd get a multimeter and check the resistance between the connections. My resistor box showed 6 Ohms on each injector
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aight ill check it out
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (blackcivic95)

You say your running way rich, what does your wideband read, You have to tune uberdata, you can't just slap a basemap on and expect it to run perfect. Use a wideband and remove fuel until your running good, also make sure you set your cold enrich, main enrich, and tps enrich values to 53 or so and click the enable checkbox, if you don't do this, it could make you run way rich on startup.
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (toolowsol)

just saving this on my recent topics i have something similar to this problem
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Default Re: 450's STILL running way rich, help out (sharky8513)

i am having the same issue

i have changed my tps, map sensor, fpr, injectors, ecus, spark plugs wires

the funniest thing is that went i pull 1 spark plugs wire off my car gets leaner

it goes from 9.2 a/f ratio to 10.2 a/f ratio


no clue

someone help us
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