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Old 03-14-2003, 04:31 AM
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I was told I might need 550 cc injectors can someone help me figure this out or show me an equation so i can figure it out? I'm getting closer to being done but i have to order injectors this week.


b18c1 84mm bore
rev hard stage 2c with 12 psi bost (daily)
9:1 je pistons


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Old 03-14-2003, 05:46 AM
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get 550s so you will be safer and not be maxing the 440s out.
Old 03-14-2003, 02:32 PM
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can use this worksheet

http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm#WORKSHEET

hope that helps
Old 03-14-2003, 03:22 PM
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now on an obd1 car if u use 440's they are a drop in right? but what about the 550's ? u need a resistor box becuase they are low impedance?
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On that page, what should I use for the "System fuel pressure @ fuel rail" for a f23 running 8psi daily.

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if your fuel manangement can handle the bigger 550cc injectors, then i would go with those. Of course 550cc injectors have enough ablity to push out more power. If your goals are over say 300whp, then 550cc is more of a must.
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while running 8lbs, I was going to stick with the stock fuel pump, if I decide to run no more than 1 bar max, I was going to get a hp fuel pump.

my end goal is about 300whp max, but want to keep a reliable daily driver. If I do get the 550cc I would need to get a resistor pack since RC does not make anything more than 440's in saturated injectors. Also, I can only run the SAFC since no tuners in the area will tune the EMS.

what do ya'll think
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmal1919 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while running 8lbs, I was going to stick with the stock fuel pump, if I decide to run no more than 1 bar max, I was going to get a hp fuel pump.

my end goal is about 300whp max, but want to keep a reliable daily driver. If I do get the 550cc I would need to get a resistor pack since RC does not make anything more than 440's in saturated injectors. Also, I can only run the SAFC since no tuners in the area will tune the EMS.

what do ya'll think</TD></TR></TABLE>

they do offer 550's in saturated type.. i'll be running these with hondata, dont know how other fuel systems going to handle these.
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you don't think that the SAFC will be able to handle the 550s?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmal1919 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you don't think that the SAFC will be able to handle the 550s?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the safc can not handle the 550s. you'll be boggin like crazy cause you'll be running rich.
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so I have no choice then, I'm left with the 440s cause the safc is all the tuners in the area no how to tune
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help me out, how come you can't tune the safc to handle the extra fuel of 550's without boggin?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmal1919 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">help me out, how come you can't tune the safc to handle the extra fuel of 550's without boggin?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your trying to run the hack, an afc can only cut fuel 50%, you won't be able to lean 550's out enough with an afc, If your set on making over 300whp without a standalone, run somehting simliar to what inline pro does, 440's/afc/fmu/check valve. many on this board have run it in the past and made good power.
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makes since

inline pro was the one who told me to get 440s anyway, so I'll ask them what else I need besides the afc. I don't think I need an fmu or check valve though
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yes you will need the check valve and fmu, also will prolly need an fpr. In the end its almost more money than hondata or a standalone.
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I'll see. I would like to get a standalone, but without a tuner or a dyno, its not a safe thing to do in my situation.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jmal1919 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll see. I would like to get a standalone, but without a tuner or a dyno, its not a safe thing to do in my situation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Without a tuner or dyno not much of anything is gonna be safe
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i know, but will just have to make due
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