400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy
12-09-2004, 08:48 AM
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400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy
I have benson sleeves, eagle h beams, hondata S100w/ boost, 83mm cp pistons 9.0-1 c/r. cometic head gasket, ARP head studs, Rod bolts and acl bearings. I was going to run 300ish whp and Ryancivic2000 said to do 400 minimum.
Can this be reliable or should i stick with 300. I know the more the horse the less reliability but lets here your thoughts on this.
Can this be reliable or should i stick with 300. I know the more the horse the less reliability but lets here your thoughts on this.
12-09-2004, 08:51 AM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (Benjithx)
The tuning is the answer to that ?, it's all in the tuning.
Thats assuming the engine was assembled properly.
Thats assuming the engine was assembled properly.
12-09-2004, 09:54 AM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (Benjithx)
Yes, that build up can handle at least 400whp EASILY. Like mention, if built properly and TUNED, then you wont have a problem. Stock motor can handle 300whp already. Why not shoot 400whp when your built? 
12-09-2004, 09:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by synik »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stock motor can handle 300whp already. Why not shoot 400whp when your built? </TD></TR></TABLE>
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12-09-2004, 10:15 AM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (H.A.R.T B18C1EG6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H.A.R.T B18C1EG6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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Ditto. Again get it tuned properly and you'll be fine.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Ditto. Again get it tuned properly and you'll be fine.
12-09-2004, 10:29 AM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (adseguy)
this is getting crazy, anyone here a 400whp daily driver? Will i need new axles?
12-09-2004, 10:31 AM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (Benjithx)
talk to D@nny on the board, he's car made 400 whp on pump and i have never seen someone beat the **** out of the car so bad every single day, and it has the same compression as the day we tuned it way back when. haha
so yes, it will be fine if you have it tuned properly.
so yes, it will be fine if you have it tuned properly.
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12-09-2004, 10:57 AM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (Benjithx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Benjithx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is getting crazy, anyone here a 400whp daily driver? Will i need new axles?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Mine isn't too far off of 400. Drive it every day. Only problems thus far- A heater hose started to leak (given the thing was nearly 10 years old).
I don't think new axles would be necessary on the street. With 400 on the street, roasting tires is inevitable in first, second and into third. Wheel spin doesn't kill axles. However, at the track....now that's a different story.
Mine isn't too far off of 400. Drive it every day. Only problems thus far- A heater hose started to leak (given the thing was nearly 10 years old).
I don't think new axles would be necessary on the street. With 400 on the street, roasting tires is inevitable in first, second and into third. Wheel spin doesn't kill axles. However, at the track....now that's a different story.
12-09-2004, 01:43 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (rondigs)
i say get the axles while u r at it.. that is what im gonna do cuz i have a friend at my local shop that has a 480whp civic that he broke 2 sets of stock axles on the dyno... i say do it while u r piecing it together and it is peace of mind and u know u cant break them...
12-09-2004, 01:48 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (rondigs)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rondigs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With 400 on the street, roasting tires is inevitable in first, second and into third. Wheel spin doesn't kill axles. However, at the track....now that's a different story. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow, must be a heavy boat of a car.
You are correct about the axles and street tires - the SBC/914 boys use stock sized tires on the street to prevent shattering VW transmissions. Same principle.
Wow, must be a heavy boat of a car.
You are correct about the axles and street tires - the SBC/914 boys use stock sized tires on the street to prevent shattering VW transmissions. Same principle.
12-09-2004, 02:15 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (J. Davis)
to me though, i got my stage 3's for peace of mind... i know ill be spinning my stock tires all through every gear nearly... but i know that my axles arent gonna snap....ever, track or not...
12-09-2004, 02:29 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (pubestripe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pubestripe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i say get the axles while u r at it.. that is what im gonna do cuz i have a friend at my local shop that has a 480whp civic that he broke 2 sets of stock axles on the dyno... i say do it while u r piecing it together and it is peace of mind and u know u cant break them...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't mind if i ask,but how in the hell did he brake not 1 but 2 sets of axles on the dyno?
Because i've never seen it done,and i have been dynoing cars for two years now,from 200hp all the way to 700hp on stock axles,and they have never broken.
At the track now thats a diferent story.
Don't mind if i ask,but how in the hell did he brake not 1 but 2 sets of axles on the dyno?
Because i've never seen it done,and i have been dynoing cars for two years now,from 200hp all the way to 700hp on stock axles,and they have never broken.
At the track now thats a diferent story.
12-09-2004, 02:31 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (aggressivemotorsports)
if i could tell u, i would... but it was at Elite Motorsports in minneapolis minnesota, and the guy had a 93 red hatch with a b18c5... and he broke 2 sets of axles in one day... i have never seen it done either, but since it has happened, it could again...
12-09-2004, 03:19 PM
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380 WHP, stock GSR sleeves, no block guard, wiseco pistons, eagle rods, ARP bolts and studs in the whole motor, stock HG, AEM EMS to tune, stock replacement autozone axles. I don't baby it/drive like a *****, but it's not like i'm doing WOT blasts to 120 every day.
12-09-2004, 03:30 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (pubestripe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pubestripe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if i could tell u, i would... but it was at Elite Motorsports in minneapolis minnesota, and the guy had a 93 red hatch with a b18c5... and he broke 2 sets of axles in one day... i have never seen it done either, but since it has happened, it could again...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dustin's hatch? Built B18C5-T?
That thing is ******* FAST!
Dustin's hatch? Built B18C5-T?
That thing is ******* FAST!
12-09-2004, 04:38 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (boostincoupe)
mine car isnt musch off and i drive mine everyday just never hit boost much cause we have snow and ice everywhere but in the dry spots i ocassionally hit boost
12-09-2004, 05:25 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (boostincoupe)
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Dustin's hatch? Built B18C5-T?
That thing is ******* FAST!</TD></TR></TABLE>
u know it.... 
that damn car is waayyyyy to ******* fast
Dustin's hatch? Built B18C5-T?
That thing is ******* FAST!</TD></TR></TABLE>
u know it....
that damn car is waayyyyy to ******* fast
12-09-2004, 05:32 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (J. Davis)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wow, must be a heavy boat of a car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
2640 with me in it. Ahhh, the pleasure of having a full weight teg.
Wow, must be a heavy boat of a car.
</TD></TR></TABLE>2640 with me in it. Ahhh, the pleasure of having a full weight teg.
12-09-2004, 06:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Benjithx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is getting crazy, anyone here a 400whp daily driver? Will i need new axles?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Eventually. I'm over 400whp and after 120K, the stock ones are about to go.
Eventually. I'm over 400whp and after 120K, the stock ones are about to go.
12-10-2004, 01:16 AM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (boosted92)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted92 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">380 WHP, stock GSR sleeves, no block guard, wiseco pistons, eagle rods, ARP bolts and studs in the whole motor, stock HG, AEM EMS to tune, stock replacement autozone axles. I don't baby it/drive like a *****, but it's not like i'm doing WOT blasts to 120 every day.</TD></TR></TABLE>How much boost is that?
12-10-2004, 09:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maybewhenimdead »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much boost is that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
14-15 psi, T3/60-1
14-15 psi, T3/60-1
12-10-2004, 09:57 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (boosted92)
damn... that thing has gotta be tuned to hell... 15 psi on stock sleeves... u got *****...
12-10-2004, 10:07 PM
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Re: 400whp, can it be reliable with out driving like a p*ssy (pubestripe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pubestripe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn... that thing has gotta be tuned to hell... 15 psi on stock sleeves... u got *****...</TD></TR></TABLE>
What about Brian Ballard who went low 10's and over 140 MPH in the 1/4 on stock sleeves? What about fullracegsr's 475 WHP at 23 pounds of boost on stock sleeves? What about evo hybrid making 540 WHP on stock sleeves? What about Geoff @ Full-Race's 511 WHP on stock sleeves? What about Jared's 509 WHP on stock sleeves? What about all the car's at InlinePro that made tons of power on stock sleeves? In the mid 90's pretty much nobody sleeved honda motors. There were still lots of honda based racecars around making LOTS of power, and they had to be on stock sleeves. There are many people that have made gobs more power than me on stock sleeves. They will be reliable provided you do not detonate.
What about Brian Ballard who went low 10's and over 140 MPH in the 1/4 on stock sleeves? What about fullracegsr's 475 WHP at 23 pounds of boost on stock sleeves? What about evo hybrid making 540 WHP on stock sleeves? What about Geoff @ Full-Race's 511 WHP on stock sleeves? What about Jared's 509 WHP on stock sleeves? What about all the car's at InlinePro that made tons of power on stock sleeves? In the mid 90's pretty much nobody sleeved honda motors. There were still lots of honda based racecars around making LOTS of power, and they had to be on stock sleeves. There are many people that have made gobs more power than me on stock sleeves. They will be reliable provided you do not detonate.