303whp and 260ft/lbs stock block LS
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303whp and 260ft/lbs stock block LS
Well I finnaly got around to the day. After 8 months since the start of the build up to the dyno day I've had a ton of fun and learned so much. It was not too hot, but not a cool day either. I was heat soaked for sure and twice we spent 10 minutes leaving a fan on the engine. I gained 10whp on the last run by not changing anything. This might explain the high PSI for power and the delay in peak torque. Also, you may note the AF's going down towards the end on the RPM range. I let this be because on the street it ended up perfect (11.4-11.8) with the extra load. If you have any questions or comments please post away, I have no secrects here .
93 octane:
224.8whp and 196.1 ft/lbs on 9 PSI - 21 degrees timing (low boost)
303.1whp and 260.0 ft/lbs on 16PSI - 16 degrees timing (high boost)
Edit: 328whp and 269ft/lbs on a different dyno and cooler air, but <FONT SIZE="2">NO</FONT> changes to the tune
Setup:
Stock block LS
T3/T04e 57 trim .63/.60
Neukin ramhorn style manifold
2.5" charge piping
TurboXS RFL BOV
Johnnyracecar.com old school 6" IC
3" full exhaust only a 24" resonator no cat no muffler (stilled passed emissions)
3bar map sensor
DSM 450cc w/ walbro 255HP
GReddy Profec A with high/low boost switch on the shift **** for immediate pleasure
Uberdata v1.70 tuned by me
(36MB)Compiled video
Thanks to: Nick (civicSir) for coming out and taking pics and HT for answering all my questions from day 1. Now it's time for me to return the favor
Modified by adseguy at 1:12 AM 12/10/2005
93 octane:
224.8whp and 196.1 ft/lbs on 9 PSI - 21 degrees timing (low boost)
303.1whp and 260.0 ft/lbs on 16PSI - 16 degrees timing (high boost)
Edit: 328whp and 269ft/lbs on a different dyno and cooler air, but <FONT SIZE="2">NO</FONT> changes to the tune
Setup:
Stock block LS
T3/T04e 57 trim .63/.60
Neukin ramhorn style manifold
2.5" charge piping
TurboXS RFL BOV
Johnnyracecar.com old school 6" IC
3" full exhaust only a 24" resonator no cat no muffler (stilled passed emissions)
3bar map sensor
DSM 450cc w/ walbro 255HP
GReddy Profec A with high/low boost switch on the shift **** for immediate pleasure
Uberdata v1.70 tuned by me
(36MB)Compiled video
Thanks to: Nick (civicSir) for coming out and taking pics and HT for answering all my questions from day 1. Now it's time for me to return the favor
Modified by adseguy at 1:12 AM 12/10/2005
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Re: 303whp and 260ft/lbs stock block LS (blown_LS)
I love your car man... We have pretty much identical setups. I can't wait for mine to be done.
Sick video (Even though it's a bit uncompressed). Was that on high boost or low boost?
Sick video (Even though it's a bit uncompressed). Was that on high boost or low boost?
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Re: 303whp and 260ft/lbs stock block LS (SOHC_MShue)
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loving the numbers but damn 16psi is kinda high for 300whp or no? anyways thats what im hoping to get also.
what kind of turbo and can you give me more specs on it becuase i have a garrett t3 with a .60 comp. .63 on turbine and just whanted to compare.
what kind of turbo and can you give me more specs on it becuase i have a garrett t3 with a .60 comp. .63 on turbine and just whanted to compare.
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Re: 303whp and 260ft/lbs stock block LS (Kowalski)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kowalski »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love your car man... We have pretty much identical setups. I can't wait for mine to be done.
Sick video (Even though it's a bit uncompressed). Was that on high boost or low boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>
low boost in second then high boost in third...you can see the torque steer and slight wheel spin...AT 80MPH!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see the 3-bar stuff worked out well for you . Great numbers man </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks! yeah 3bar and Uberdata have ZERO problems. I don't like seeing posts saying 3 bar is difficult or hard to setup. My map scalars were completley setup on my own and from 2 PSI all the way to 16 PSi I have a resolution of 3PSI so the tuning was relatily easy with no "big jumps". If anyone needs help I'll be posting in the Uberdata forums on how to adjust map scalars
Sick video (Even though it's a bit uncompressed). Was that on high boost or low boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>
low boost in second then high boost in third...you can see the torque steer and slight wheel spin...AT 80MPH!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I see the 3-bar stuff worked out well for you . Great numbers man </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks! yeah 3bar and Uberdata have ZERO problems. I don't like seeing posts saying 3 bar is difficult or hard to setup. My map scalars were completley setup on my own and from 2 PSI all the way to 16 PSi I have a resolution of 3PSI so the tuning was relatily easy with no "big jumps". If anyone needs help I'll be posting in the Uberdata forums on how to adjust map scalars
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Re: 303whp and 260ft/lbs stock block LS (mtber)
Wow! Makes me wanna build a kit for the teg and have u tune it..lol Nice work man... I have seen this car in person very clean setup, no cheap shortcuts taken.
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Nice job man . Bet if you used more JB weld and zipties in that setup, the gains would be astronomical .
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Congrats Adrien, now you need to get it on the track and see what you can pull....if you only had a set of drag radials to hook with! lol! Btw you never sent me picutres with the final results after the bushing problem! Hit me up on aim sometime or whatever, I've been extremely busy lately!
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Re: 303whp and 260ft/lbs stock block LS (Kowalski)
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Very nice #s man... I will be shooting for around the same with a stock ls motor as well.....Would you feel comfortable with trying to tune for anymore horsepower on pump gas???
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Very nice #s man... I will be shooting for around the same with a stock ls motor as well.....Would you feel comfortable with trying to tune for anymore horsepower on pump gas???
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Re: 303whp and 260ft/lbs stock block LS (sean)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89SiPimpin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice job man . Bet if you used more JB weld and zipties in that setup, the gains would be astronomical . </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah I was hoping my BOV wouldn't pop off because of the JB weld....thank god it didn't though I didn't have any zip ties to fix it . For people that don't know he fixed his BOV failure with zip ties...lol
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Very nice #s man... I will be shooting for around the same with a stock ls motor as well.....Would you feel comfortable with trying to tune for anymore horsepower on pump gas???</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah I could do a couple more PSI, but not with the engine heat-soaked like that. It wasn't horrible, but enough for me never to do that again. It's not a set number when, but PSI wise I feel comfortable up to 18, but we've seen people do 20PSI on pump gas. I don't think I want to extract anymore power until I build the motor up.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sean »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very nice. what wrap did you use on your upper charge pipe?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Home depot pipe insulation. It helps out on a non-heat soaked engine, but when it's hot like it was that day the insulation actually holds the heat when I try to cool it off. Otherwise daily driving it helps a little as I witnessed through datalogging
yeah I was hoping my BOV wouldn't pop off because of the JB weld....thank god it didn't though I didn't have any zip ties to fix it . For people that don't know he fixed his BOV failure with zip ties...lol
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99lspwr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Very nice #s man... I will be shooting for around the same with a stock ls motor as well.....Would you feel comfortable with trying to tune for anymore horsepower on pump gas???</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah I could do a couple more PSI, but not with the engine heat-soaked like that. It wasn't horrible, but enough for me never to do that again. It's not a set number when, but PSI wise I feel comfortable up to 18, but we've seen people do 20PSI on pump gas. I don't think I want to extract anymore power until I build the motor up.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sean »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very nice. what wrap did you use on your upper charge pipe?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Home depot pipe insulation. It helps out on a non-heat soaked engine, but when it's hot like it was that day the insulation actually holds the heat when I try to cool it off. Otherwise daily driving it helps a little as I witnessed through datalogging