301whp and 225tq @ 15 psi, thats nothing new right, but it was a SOHC!
03-29-2006, 06:40 PM
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301whp and 225tq @ 15 psi, thats nothing new right, but it was a SOHC!
It was a good motor till it blew 
Modified by Quad-Damage at 8:46 PM 4/20/2006
Modified by Quad-Damage at 8:46 PM 4/20/2006
03-29-2006, 06:57 PM
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HAHA
just saw ur new avatar
dude i was SUCH a starcraft fiend,
played it from the day it came out till maybe last year..
oh and yes dseries ignitions suck, they go out so ez,
but man they're so dirt cheap, I woulda brought 5 spares with me, haha.
the guts are interchangeable throughout most dseries dizzies,
i like swapping out ignitors/coils/etc as opposed to just buying whole new dizzies..
btw great #'s man,
hows it drive?
also would it be beneficial to smooth out the af curve some ?
just saw ur new avatar
dude i was SUCH a starcraft fiend,
played it from the day it came out till maybe last year..
oh and yes dseries ignitions suck, they go out so ez,
but man they're so dirt cheap, I woulda brought 5 spares with me, haha.
the guts are interchangeable throughout most dseries dizzies,
i like swapping out ignitors/coils/etc as opposed to just buying whole new dizzies..
btw great #'s man,
hows it drive?
also would it be beneficial to smooth out the af curve some ?
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03-29-2006, 07:36 PM
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Re: (93turbo16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And why so lean during spool up? Just wondering. Good numbers though!</TD></TR></TABLE> WERD? Nice graph man power to 8k. 
03-29-2006, 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And why so lean during spool up? Just wondering. Good numbers though!</TD></TR></TABLE>
No joke. Talk about running too lean. I am assuming you are reaching full boost around the 5000-5500 rpm range? I would beg to differ about a great tune though.
While you are messing with your ignition, make sure when you go back for a retune you have fresh ngk 3330's gapped to around a .025" and throw on some ngk blue plugs. If that doesn't aid the problem, it could be dizzy related. I ran into the same issue on a 5th gen prelude a few months ago.
No joke. Talk about running too lean. I am assuming you are reaching full boost around the 5000-5500 rpm range? I would beg to differ about a great tune though.
While you are messing with your ignition, make sure when you go back for a retune you have fresh ngk 3330's gapped to around a .025" and throw on some ngk blue plugs. If that doesn't aid the problem, it could be dizzy related. I ran into the same issue on a 5th gen prelude a few months ago.
03-29-2006, 07:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No joke. Talk about running too lean. I am assuming you are reaching full boost around the 5000-5500 rpm range? I would beg to differ about a great tune though.
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Indeed, during spool up is the most prime spot for detonation to occur. I would definitley have them richen that up for you. Honestly it is better to run leaner on the top end then during spool up, as long as the ignition is in check.
No joke. Talk about running too lean. I am assuming you are reaching full boost around the 5000-5500 rpm range? I would beg to differ about a great tune though.
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Indeed, during spool up is the most prime spot for detonation to occur. I would definitley have them richen that up for you. Honestly it is better to run leaner on the top end then during spool up, as long as the ignition is in check.
03-29-2006, 08:20 PM
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Re: (93turbo16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Indeed, during spool up is the most prime spot for detonation to occur. I would definitley have them richen that up for you. Honestly it is better to run leaner on the top end then during spool up, as long as the ignition is in check.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Where on earth did you hear this?
I forgot to mention this prior though... good peak numbers for a stock d series. Just work on the fine tuning.
Where on earth did you hear this?
I forgot to mention this prior though... good peak numbers for a stock d series. Just work on the fine tuning.
03-29-2006, 08:35 PM
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Re: (93turbo16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93turbo16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Indeed, during spool up is the most prime spot for detonation to occur. I would definitley have them richen that up for you. Honestly it is better to run leaner on the top end then during spool up, as long as the ignition is in check.</TD></TR></TABLE>
um no your greatist chances of detionation is at the highest load .
um no your greatist chances of detionation is at the highest load .
03-29-2006, 08:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
um no your greatist chances of detionation is at the highest load . </TD></TR></TABLE>
......and the highest load is usually at around peak torque.......the engine will want to use the most fuel at peak torque.......so i would richen up that mid-range and lean it out up top just a bit.....
um no your greatist chances of detionation is at the highest load . </TD></TR></TABLE>
......and the highest load is usually at around peak torque.......the engine will want to use the most fuel at peak torque.......so i would richen up that mid-range and lean it out up top just a bit.....
03-29-2006, 09:49 PM
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Re: 301whp and 225tq @ 15 psi, thats nothing new right, but it was a SOHC! (prime time)
So, this is where I come in and say that the car is not done being tuned......as we were tuning we ran into the ignition problem, thus forcing us to not tune any further until the problem is found and fixed. the air fuel was getting better on some of the other runs but would have an ignition spark issue after 6500rpm.
This is an ok tune with what we had and spent 3 hours on the dyno tuning trying to get it fixed so we could move forward...The air fuel near the end of our session was allot smoother and near 11.8-11.9 starting at 5000 rpm and was flat to the top end.........yes we tried everything, taking the MSD out and just using the coil, changing plugs, and so fourth.....these numbers are just the tip of the ice burg....we plan on making more power then this and we will when the problem is fixed.....stay tuned......oh and not to mention the computer for the dyno giving us problems as well.
This is an ok tune with what we had and spent 3 hours on the dyno tuning trying to get it fixed so we could move forward...The air fuel near the end of our session was allot smoother and near 11.8-11.9 starting at 5000 rpm and was flat to the top end.........yes we tried everything, taking the MSD out and just using the coil, changing plugs, and so fourth.....these numbers are just the tip of the ice burg....we plan on making more power then this and we will when the problem is fixed.....stay tuned......oh and not to mention the computer for the dyno giving us problems as well.
03-29-2006, 09:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by non-VTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
......and the highest load is usually at around peak torque.......the engine will want to use the most fuel at peak torque.......so i would richen up that mid-range and lean it out up top just a bit.....
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This man is right. I'd be more worried about a lean spot around peak torque than at high RPMs.
......and the highest load is usually at around peak torque.......the engine will want to use the most fuel at peak torque.......so i would richen up that mid-range and lean it out up top just a bit.....
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This man is right. I'd be more worried about a lean spot around peak torque than at high RPMs.
