240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR?
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240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR?
Alright...I'm trying to decide whether to keep my '97 GSR....or sell it and swap a Sr20det motor into a 240sx chassis....since this is a honda board and I'm expecting some biased opinions, i'm going to post this on a 240 board too...so if you guys could give me any pros/cons I would greatly appreciate it
oh my car setup is as follows:
Itr pistons
" cams
g-force ecu
itr vlave springs
Skunk 2 intake mani.
AEM itr cai
Apex'i N1
Apex'i V-afc
aem cam gears
aem pulleys
(prelude injectors not on car)
So I'd be lookin at puttin in new pistons...and upgrading fuel delivery....looking for around 300ish hp prob...
Thanks,
MAtt
oh my car setup is as follows:
Itr pistons
" cams
g-force ecu
itr vlave springs
Skunk 2 intake mani.
AEM itr cai
Apex'i N1
Apex'i V-afc
aem cam gears
aem pulleys
(prelude injectors not on car)
So I'd be lookin at puttin in new pistons...and upgrading fuel delivery....looking for around 300ish hp prob...
Thanks,
MAtt
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (GSRBoy)
Tomorrow my hood for my sr20det 92 silvia converted 240sx will be here. Ill post pics of both my old car and new. Ill let you decide. Looks wise its hard to touch the nissan. RWD is far more fun on the street. Ask all my friends. But the whole you can build it for 4 grand is BS. If you plan to do this setup have at least 10grand to get the major stuff done. Well heres my old ride
2000 civic ex $15,200 new
Engine Mods:
2000 Civic B16a2 Engine Swap $1400
Bored 10 Over $40
Complete Blue Printed and Balanced Bottom End $90
Eagle Rods $400
Wiseco 8to1 Turbo Pistons $450
drag 3 kit $2400
Nuformz Block Guard "welded in" $90
Unorthadox UnderDrive Pullies free
Tial Wastegate $230
B&M FPR $60
Test Pipe $20
Poly motor mounts $30
Poly Shifter Mounts $20
Clutchnet Stage 2 Clutch $340
Greddy Evolution Exhaust $480
Hondata 3b setup $650
msd blaster coil $30
msd cap $30
macnacor plug wires $30
Interior Mods:
Autometer Pyro Gauge $100
Autometer Boost Gauge $30
Autometer Oil Gauge $30
Autometer Air/Fuel Gauge $50
Autometer Gauge Pod $30
Hurst Short Shifter free
Civic Type-R Shift Boot $30
2001 Accord headunit free
Exterior Mods:
Carbon fiber hood $250
red hood pins sparco free
Honda SI Rear Wing $200
Honda Front LIp $100
Honda Side Skirts $100
Front Upper Strut Bar $40
Rear Lower Strut Bar $40
Strobes $30
City Lights $30
RacingHart White CP-10s
NItto 555 205/40/17 tires $1200
total $24,250
And i was still making payments
http://clutorrtech.homestead.com/files/d5.JPG
http://clutorrtech.homestead.com/files/d6.JPG
Tomorrow ill throw up pics of the nissan that i now own. oh and ill also add up the cost in it. Its not to bad
2000 civic ex $15,200 new
Engine Mods:
2000 Civic B16a2 Engine Swap $1400
Bored 10 Over $40
Complete Blue Printed and Balanced Bottom End $90
Eagle Rods $400
Wiseco 8to1 Turbo Pistons $450
drag 3 kit $2400
Nuformz Block Guard "welded in" $90
Unorthadox UnderDrive Pullies free
Tial Wastegate $230
B&M FPR $60
Test Pipe $20
Poly motor mounts $30
Poly Shifter Mounts $20
Clutchnet Stage 2 Clutch $340
Greddy Evolution Exhaust $480
Hondata 3b setup $650
msd blaster coil $30
msd cap $30
macnacor plug wires $30
Interior Mods:
Autometer Pyro Gauge $100
Autometer Boost Gauge $30
Autometer Oil Gauge $30
Autometer Air/Fuel Gauge $50
Autometer Gauge Pod $30
Hurst Short Shifter free
Civic Type-R Shift Boot $30
2001 Accord headunit free
Exterior Mods:
Carbon fiber hood $250
red hood pins sparco free
Honda SI Rear Wing $200
Honda Front LIp $100
Honda Side Skirts $100
Front Upper Strut Bar $40
Rear Lower Strut Bar $40
Strobes $30
City Lights $30
RacingHart White CP-10s
NItto 555 205/40/17 tires $1200
total $24,250
And i was still making payments
http://clutorrtech.homestead.com/files/d5.JPG
http://clutorrtech.homestead.com/files/d6.JPG
Tomorrow ill throw up pics of the nissan that i now own. oh and ill also add up the cost in it. Its not to bad
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (GSRBoy)
With the GSR you could easily build it up to perform for you.
On the other hand, an SR20 would be nice to claim. The main thing I would be concerned about is emissions, they are cracking down on that but if you keep the stock 240 engine and swap for emissions you will be fine. so in any case you have some work ahead of you. Hope all works out
On the other hand, an SR20 would be nice to claim. The main thing I would be concerned about is emissions, they are cracking down on that but if you keep the stock 240 engine and swap for emissions you will be fine. so in any case you have some work ahead of you. Hope all works out
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (turboex)
The nissan cost so far
92 nissan 240sx SE Blown motor, shitty interoir $500
sr20det, silvia front end conversion $3800
hks gt2530 turbo $500
tublar manifold $500
N1 exhaust $480
Cd player $80
Boost controller (just used old turboxs one from civic
Greddy Rsvl intercooler $825
Rims and tires $1200
carbon fiber Hood $800
Bomex bumper $600
Aero skirts $250
Paint job $1400
Valve cover $180
BOV $140
thats all i can think of right now. total $11,255
Ill post pics tomorrow
92 nissan 240sx SE Blown motor, shitty interoir $500
sr20det, silvia front end conversion $3800
hks gt2530 turbo $500
tublar manifold $500
N1 exhaust $480
Cd player $80
Boost controller (just used old turboxs one from civic
Greddy Rsvl intercooler $825
Rims and tires $1200
carbon fiber Hood $800
Bomex bumper $600
Aero skirts $250
Paint job $1400
Valve cover $180
BOV $140
thats all i can think of right now. total $11,255
Ill post pics tomorrow
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (junya16)
yeah I'd have at least 10k to spend...just to get the basics done right...'95-'96 240 chassis....s13 redtop....cautionary fuel upgrades...tt..bc..and fmic...and Junya...I live in a county in FL where we don't have emissions or cops who know what the hell it'd be
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (GSRBoy)
My civic made 252hp and 172tq at 10psi, I never boosted over that cuase my block was not sleeved, and i could not get over the fact of blowing up my car when it was a nice *** looking 2000 model that i still had payments on (kinda late in the game to decide that). Pluss i melted a piston once when the gay *** delta gate stuck on me. So i did not want to go threw it again. Pluss i did not want to have to get a LSD or axles. its was just getting too spendy. and finally i now have a kid so i had to be smarter with my cash. This called for the nissan, no more car payment and 30bucks a month full coverage!
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Re: (SiRkid)
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its becoming the next ricer fad car to have...
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It would be almost original to stick with the GSR now
its becoming the next ricer fad car to have...
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It would be almost original to stick with the GSR now
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (javierb14)
i wouldnt say that the 4k$ thing is ridiculous. We found this car for 500, jon drove out and got it, now once we have the fuel system stuff straightened out, it should make a signicant amount of power, and it will be as much as a Type R swap
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I would go with the 240. I am in the process of doing a t3/to4E setup on my 94" SE-R and im shooting for around 300WHP daily driven on teh stock bottom end, but the limits of the SR20 are alot higher than that. Here is a little example. http://forums3.freshalloy.com/...art=1
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (FFgeoff)
damn i want your manifold.!!!!!! Cant beat full-race with a stick!! Lwt me know when these go on sale man and ill save the pennys for one. Very nice work. As for finding the car for $500 yeah it does happen. I paid $100 for a 92 civic hatch that was in great shape and i sold it for $2500 so its all in the timing. But the way things are now its hard to get that kinda deal anymore whitout getting real lucky.
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (turboex)
As with the 240 being a fad... what not a fad anymore. Every v8 boy sells this truck to get the z28 or mustang cuse the mags say its cool. Honda guys sell hondas to get nissans, nissan guys sell nissans to get supras. Its all out there. Yeah its a fad I guess but whats not these days?
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im torn between the two. I want to do a nissan 240 with a RB swap. But stick with the gsr man. I think the 240 will be next bandwagon, sad to say, but i think its true.
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Re: (lazerus)
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So very true. I would love to build a 240 sr20det. ON the other hand, I own a turbo gsr and its the funnest car to have. Power is insane! Sr20 parts are becoming easier to find, the one big question is fuel management. What is out there for the sr20 besides a VPC or SAFC? You know there is a handful on selections for the gsr..just my thoughts..
So very true. I would love to build a 240 sr20det. ON the other hand, I own a turbo gsr and its the funnest car to have. Power is insane! Sr20 parts are becoming easier to find, the one big question is fuel management. What is out there for the sr20 besides a VPC or SAFC? You know there is a handful on selections for the gsr..just my thoughts..
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Re: 240sx w/ SR20 or turbo GSR? (GSRBoy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSRBoy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright...I'm trying to decide whether to keep my '97 GSR....or sell it and swap a Sr20det motor into a 240sx chassis....since this is a honda board and I'm expecting some biased opinions, i'm going to post this on a 240 board too...so if you guys could give me any pros/cons I would greatly appreciate it
oh my car setup is as follows:
Itr pistons
" cams
g-force ecu
itr vlave springs
Skunk 2 intake mani.
AEM itr cai
Apex'i N1
Apex'i V-afc
aem cam gears
aem pulleys
(prelude injectors not on car)
So I'd be lookin at puttin in new pistons...and upgrading fuel delivery....looking for around 300ish hp prob...
Thanks,
MAtt</TD></TR></TABLE>
personally, you can't beat the SR20. I'm in process of doing 3 at my shop right now, one of which is mine. Parts are plentiful, cheap, and easy to come by if you know the right sources. The motors are VERY strong - our shop car is #3 in the nation on a stock block (440whp SAE on pump), and we tuned another to 474whp SAE on race gas with conservative timing values. These are stock, unknown mileage blocks.
The one thing that sold me is just the elegance of the cars. If you like a nicely done body kit, unlike Hondas, there are LOTS of examples available.
However, I love my Hondas and I always will. I recommend you do both
oh my car setup is as follows:
Itr pistons
" cams
g-force ecu
itr vlave springs
Skunk 2 intake mani.
AEM itr cai
Apex'i N1
Apex'i V-afc
aem cam gears
aem pulleys
(prelude injectors not on car)
So I'd be lookin at puttin in new pistons...and upgrading fuel delivery....looking for around 300ish hp prob...
Thanks,
MAtt</TD></TR></TABLE>
personally, you can't beat the SR20. I'm in process of doing 3 at my shop right now, one of which is mine. Parts are plentiful, cheap, and easy to come by if you know the right sources. The motors are VERY strong - our shop car is #3 in the nation on a stock block (440whp SAE on pump), and we tuned another to 474whp SAE on race gas with conservative timing values. These are stock, unknown mileage blocks.
The one thing that sold me is just the elegance of the cars. If you like a nicely done body kit, unlike Hondas, there are LOTS of examples available.
However, I love my Hondas and I always will. I recommend you do both