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Tinker219 05-11-2003 06:57 AM

22re 4X4 T3 power :-)
 
I just picked up an 89 Toyota Pickup for $500. I was told the engine was locked up from overheating.
Well, I unloaded it from the trailer and decided to hit the key. It turned over! Im thinking at most I will need a headgasket because it sounded like there was no compression.
In any case, anybody have a 22re laying around? With my luck, the engine is history, so Im still looking for another one.
Im gonna slap a lil .38 T3 on there, fmu, and run 3-5 psi. Bosch BOV. I wanna be able to make it up any two track w/out running out of steam https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

heres some pics:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...a/fc2bf80a.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...d/fc2bf811.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/fc2bf81a.jpg


Modified by Tinker219 at 11:35 AM 5/11/2003

t04s 05-11-2003 09:01 AM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
Wow tinker, you live in the boondocks. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emdgust.gif

93LSivic 05-11-2003 09:04 AM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
22R's are stout motors.....but they've been known to have hg problems, hehe.

Boost the hell out of it. Looks to be a fun project. I had a friend that had an older Toy 4x4 with 22r and we used to abuse the shit out of it.

Full-Race Geoff 05-11-2003 09:12 AM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
do some research... its not what you think it is. Check the timing chain guides.


A pic of my 22r truck https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

http://www.full-race.com/geoff4link/4link.JPG

im running a standalone we built and a t3t4 57 trim https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Phoenix GSR 05-11-2003 09:17 AM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
I dont think you can just toss an fmu on a mass air motor

Full-Race Geoff 05-11-2003 09:20 AM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Phoenix GSR)
 
you can, and it will work, but it sucks as usual. Also its a mass air meter, it doesunt use a wire, it uses this antiquated spring loaded flap thing, its really a crappy system

TheShocker 05-11-2003 09:22 AM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Phoenix GSR)
 
22REs are great. SuperT made ~500 WHP on his before the 2JZ went in.

-Seth

hulkhb 05-11-2003 11:09 AM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (TheShocker)
 
Good deal Tinker, i have the 2wd drive version with 186K miles on it and it runs good.

93LSivic 05-11-2003 11:15 AM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (TheShocker)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShocker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">22REs are great. SuperT made ~500 WHP on his before the 2JZ went in.

-Seth</TD></TR></TABLE>

He would have made more power if the manifold was a Full-Race product https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

Tinker219 05-11-2003 01:22 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (FFgeoff)
 
So should I just use the stock MAF sensor? I was just going to route the turbo inlet through it, and call it good. I would think that the small amount of added air wouldnt affect anything too much.
Get some more pics of your truck up Geoff, that one didnt work...

Tinker219 05-11-2003 01:22 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (t04s)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by t04s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow tinker, you live in the boondocks. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emdgust.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>
yup...hehe, nothing else for me to do, except cut and weld https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

boosted3g 05-11-2003 04:20 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
nice steal for 500 bucks. 22re's are a dime a dozen youll have no problem finding one. My 89 has the shitty 3.0 v6 in it. Yeah the one that dont idle for shit, has all the recalls, and you cant repair anything. Changing the oil takes a good hour.

SikofFalln 05-11-2003 05:01 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (FFgeoff)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FFgeoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do some research... its not what you think it is. Check the timing chain guides.


A pic of my 22r truck https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

http://www.full-race.com/geoff4link/4link.JPG

What the Funk? That thing is awesome where can I see more of it?


im running a standalone we built and a t3t4 57 trim https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif
</TD></TR></TABLE>

integra-modder 05-11-2003 05:05 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
very cool tinker....

i guess there is a benefit to living in the middle of bumble fuck...


Tinker219 05-11-2003 05:14 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (integra-modder)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra-modder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very cool tinker....

i guess there is a benefit to living in the middle of bumble fuck...

</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have some nice wheelin territory around here too. I tell you what, the whine of the turbo and the pop of the BOV will make the people up here on the trails run for cover...

Joseph Davis 05-11-2003 06:18 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
Man, that is a great deal for a clean body and 4WD drivetrain.

22R's labyrinthine timing chain tensioners/guides or HG are valid opinions. You're supposed to pop the head off when putting a timing chain on those motors, and I know people who just l-i-f-t it a little and try to get by without a proper replacement. I also know people who can pop the cam gear on + off without removing the head, or so they claim - good luck trying.

I think .38 AR will be really crappy, go with a .48 if you want low spool. With .48 turbine, and regular T3 compressor of some nature, on a 2.4 liter you'll start spooling at ~1000 if there's load on the engine.

There's a guy locally running a GM 749 ECM on his T3 Toyota truck, his name is Jon, he might be able to advise you at little: galadar@worldnet.att.net

You might look into running dual Toy VAFs (Vane Air Flow - it's not a MAF as pointed out earlier) with an AFC like the Supra guys do to fit in more boost.

Tinker219 05-11-2003 06:44 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (J. Davis)
 
cool, thanx for the help dude...

lazerus 05-11-2003 06:53 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
hrmm... i'd say swap in a 7m-GTE. http://www.yotapower.com

:-) https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif

Joseph Davis 05-11-2003 07:14 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (lazerus)
 
On the engine swap into Toyota truck subject, there's supposed to be a guy who runs around town with a lightly wrecked in the front mid-80s Toyota 2WD pickup, hood held shut with bungee cords, and a lightly modded 2JZ.

The rumor mill claims low 11's, you know what the rumor mill is worth, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. The non-4WD doesn't weigh anywhere what a Pigsupra does.

TheShocker 05-12-2003 02:52 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (93LSivic)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93LSivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

He would have made more power if the manifold was a Full-Race product https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah he probably would have made 1700 HP thanks to the collector design and the 304 stainless steel weld els.

-Seth

senpai 05-12-2003 03:04 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (Tinker219)
 
these motors are good for turbo? My dad has the 2WD version, does that matter?

TheShocker 05-12-2003 03:42 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (maztur)
 
Yep and they have great rear ends too. Handled 500 WHP for two entire seasons without a single breakage.

senpai 05-12-2003 03:54 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (TheShocker)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShocker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep and they have great rear ends too. Handled 500 WHP for two entire seasons without a single breakage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmmm ... *evil grin*

rOby 05-12-2003 05:08 PM

Re: 22re 4X4 T3 power :-) (maztur)
 
1jz or 2jz...a 7mgte is ok, prone to hg problems. ive never seen one in person that has put down over 450.

Full-Race Geoff 05-12-2003 06:59 PM

pics of trucks
 
the stock axles are badass. I actually run the slightly beefier (and wider) axle out of the toyota tundra which uses a 30 spline shaft, which is actulaly shared with a Dana 60. The housing already comes with a pretty beefy truss from the factory, and serious trussing is helpful, but definately not necessary. daves 22r truck is crazy fast tho, he must have huge balls running on stock leafs like that... thats just scary/dangerous. did he have headwork?

a sickass ranger
http://www.full-race.com/4link/4linkdranger.jpg

http://www.full-race.com/4link/4linkdranger2.jpg

not-so-recent pics of my truck &lt;insert 32 gal fuel cell and a lot more tubes&gt;
http://www.full-race.com/geoff4link/4link2.JPG

http://www.full-race.com/geoff4link/4link0.JPG




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