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This is my first real thread that I have posted about a car I had a big hand in building. It was a long build almost 6 years in the making and with the end results being a whopping 709.8 hp. The car belongs to a real good friend of mine, Jonathan Arndt of Cullman Alabama. Jonathen is the type of guy who builds things right and dosent spare any expense.

The car was Tuned by Mase who came down to Henson Performance in Hueytown Alabama to work his magic. I cant say enough about Mase he is a stand up guy who really knows his ****. There was three tunes total that night which consist of a 93, c16 and E85 tune. The e85 tune produced the best results and is really what the car was built for. Below you will see a list of all the dyno charts as well as a link to the pull that made 709.8hp and 461.4tq

Here is a list of the parts on the car.

Car:
1996 Honda Civic DX Hatchback with AC

Engine:
2.0 Liter Golden Eagle Sleeved B18c GSR
Eagle Rods (upgraded rod bolts)
CP 9:5:1 84mm pistons
Fluidampr Crank Pulley
Balanced rotating assembly
ARP Headstuds
Type R oil pump, water pump and timing belt
T1 Oil catch can with -10 AN lines
Hasport Engine Mounts

Head:
Full Port Flow Head
Skunk2 Pro Series springs and retainers
Skunk2 Pro 1 cams
Type R intake manifold and throttle body

Drivetrain:
USDM Type R with stock LSD
Competition Twin Disc Clutch
800hp Axles and 36mm Hubs

Turbo Kit:
Fullrace AC Ramhorn Manifold (t3)
3" downpipe
Garrett GT3582R (extended 3" exhaust flange)
Tial 44mm wastegate (13.5 psi spring)
Tail BOV (11 psi spring)
Custom Intercooler piping (2.5")
All Vibrant couplers and T-bolt clamps
Precision 600hp Intercooler

Fuel System:
Fullblown Hanger
2 Deatschwerk Fuel Pumps (320lh per pump)
Aeromotive fuel filter
-8 an feed Line
-6 an return line
AEM Fuel rail and regulator
ID2000 Injectors

Electronics:
Rywire Milspec engine harness with connector
Rywire Billet connector plate
Hondata s300 with boost controller
AEM Wideband
Autometer oil pressure and boost gauge
Hondata CPR conversion
k20 coil packs

Again a big thanks to Mase for taking time out of his busy schedule to come and tune the car. I will definitely recommend him to anyone and also I cant forget James down at Henson Performance for keeping his shop open until the we hours of the morning. He is a stand up guy as well. Some pictures and all the dyno charts are below and a youtube link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAOYl0FPbiA


I am curious as to what is the most HP out of a T3 GT35R? Can someone chime in on that one for me please?

effin

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wow , flat out amazing, e85 ftw!!!!

DirtyDA9

Awesome numbers and good graph

justYncredible

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very very nice

TheShodan

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You're pretty much at the edge of a standard GT3582R. Not much more than that. you've squeezed it pretty hard.

per4mance

iTrader: (1)

Thanks, Mase really knows his stuff. The boost was falling off about 4 psi up top so there is actually more HP to be made if he wanted to. But 709 is a ton already especially when we were expecting between 600 and 650hp.

CDecker0218

nice numbers. I just dynoed my turbo integra yesterday and put down similar power. Congrats

Almtrhb

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Good JOb... I tuned mine 4 days ago on E-70 haha tested it after the dyno....

per4mance

iTrader: (1)

The owner of the car tested the E85 right before we left for the dyno and it was 87% which I thought was great considering the station it came from.

Almtrhb

iTrader: (3)

Yea i got gas the 2 nights ago and it tested 85%... Not sure if it was cuz we let it sit for close to 3 months before the car was done.... Hmmmm So atleast we know its good on 70%

la001268

Great numbers for a 35r how many pounds for the 708 pull.
I just got off the dyno yesterday. Also with a 35r made 690 on 23psi. Had to stop the injectors were at 98% I had 1000cc going with 2000cc down the road.

Tony M.

Kind of random, but what kind of wrap is that on manifold, as well as the AC lines?

Thanks

per4mance

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It would get up to 30 psi then drop off to about 26. And the peak HP was at 26 psi, so if it would have stayed at 30 psi then there where a few more ponies that could have been made, maybe

And for the gentleman askng about the wrap on the manifold, its just header wrap that you can buy off summit.

Tony M.

Thanks man, Great numbers too
I wish there was a dyno where I'm stationed.

DDTECH

do you know why its starting to fall off?

damnilovepuzz3d

Probably because at 709 WHP the GT35R compressor wheel is all out of steam.

DDTECH

really..??

I think its something else. I'm thinking he's starting to blow boost out the otherside because of the overlap.

damnilovepuzz3d

I really don't think so. Why would that start becoming an issue only at higher RPM's when the valve aren't open for as long? I would think if this were an issue that it would start to present itself more in the mid range rather than the top end? I've never really seen a 35R dyno higher than 650 WHP, so I think 709 is the absolute limit of the comp wheel.

DDTECH

Valves aren't open as long?

What? lol.. Alright.


10k+ revs, 30+psi. Dont know what the gears are dialed in at, but again, NA cams will pose certain issues in the WAY upper rpms and boost levels.
pro1's are a great cam profile, they aren't the end all be all though.

great build, and great numbers, i'd bring the revs down and i'm sure the problem with boost lost would go away.

per4mance

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Lol, the reason it was falling off is because we were using a Lowes Air Compressor regulator as a boost controller. Reason for that is I didint realise that the ecu wasent modified yet to be able to control the hondata boost solenoid. It would have help if we were using the right boost controller. Plus it was only running off one of the ports on the wastegate thats another reason it didnt help. Its def at the limit but I have seen plenty of 35r's hold boost between 28 and 30 psi. And we didnt mess with the cam gears any so that also would have def help with the overlap. So more hp could have been made so maybe next time when Mase tunes it we will use the right boost controller and mess with the cam gear settings.

DDTECH

4psi seems to be alot. I'd fix that, and redyno to see if that is the issue.

Do you have an average whp per boost ?? What was the overall timing on the e85 vs the c16 and pump on this setup.

I also see on the 709whp run, AFR was around 11.1? Probably could have leaned it up a bit and made some more power , if that is the e85 run.

per4mance

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I dont have the maps in front of me to see what the difference was in timing. Once Mase emails all the tunes over I will take a look. And we really didnt look to see what kind of HP it made per pound of boost. An if you take a closer look the A/F was actually closer to 12.1 and that was through a sniffer. He was basing his A/F off the AEM Wideband on the dash so there will be a difference in A/F between the two. Also the e85 tune was very late in the night and all of us including Mase were getting very tired. We had been at the dyno from 4pm to 1am because of some little issure earlier that we had to fix. **** always happends on the dyno lol. Mase said next time he will get the A/F flat and make some more power with the hondata boost controller through the powerband. Like I said it was very late and we had been working on getting the car ready all week and that day so we were tired and worn out. Then had a two hour drive home so it was a long day. Also on another note Mase was having trouble communicating with the hondata towards the end. Almost like the software was bugging out so that was fighting him alittle but still I cant complain on any of what he did that night.

chancek

Man those are some great numbers on the 35r regardless. Hoping to hit 600-650 on my 35r. Congrats on the build

DDTECH

Great work - I was going off the dyno reading on the 709 run. If it was 12.1 thats good. No use in pushing a persons limits when its late thats for sure..

I've been having a few customers have that same problem, also was happening on flash pro, that has been fixed though in the last week or so.

Great work none the less and on a 35R its really solid..really.

Cole D

You made 690hp@23psi with 35R? I made 555hp@24 PSI with mine. How is that possible ? I guess I don't understand the powers of E85