damnraz

I have a question about this turbo, It's a dual ball bearing IHI aka 16G killer made by XS engineering with absolutely no shaft play and spins freely. I was wondering how this would perform on an internally stock b16a. I was looking into 300whp w/ my t3/t4 hybrid but then again it's in need of a rebuild. So I still got a perfectly working turbo and I'm thinking about using it. My wastegate is set at 10psi and I was wondering what should I expect from it.

Here are the specs of the turbo

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/killa.htm

and here's a picture



Thanks.

damnraz

anybody?

Da K00l Aid Mayun

*chuckles*

CW96

What company/brand is you T3/T4?

TheThiefTheKnife'NTheGun

It might be a little underrated for a higher reving motor like a honda. Those turbos dont do to bad on DSM's but again they are wrapping out to like 7500 RPMS.. I am sure you would do fine with it but it would be dependent on your power goals lower boost would make it easier to hold pressure at higher rpms. That My Opinion

wantboost

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i dont know if the ihi ballbearing center sections can be rebuilt

damnraz

the t3/t4 needs a rebuild, it has turbonetics exhaust housing, garrett internals .60 trim/.63AR, are you serious about topping out at 7500rpms?, I wanted it to be a daily driver and wanted 300whp out of the IHI. anybody else got any thoughts?

.God.

16G killer = T28 It would work really well on your B16. Expect to start seeing boost around 3000-3500 all the way to redline, this turbo is a good size for the 1.6L.

damnraz

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ..Lloyd Braun.. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">16G killer = T28 It would work really well on your B16. Expect to start seeing boost around 3000-3500 all the way to redline, this turbo is a good size for the 1.6L.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, that's all I needed to know, anybody else that can back this up?

.God.

everyone else is going to say it's too small. In reality it's perfect for a daily driven B16 looking to make around 250-300whp.


you can google T28 compressor maps for more info


EDIT: nevermind, it's IHI based not Garrett like I thought they were.

damnraz

Since it's an IHI, you're saying it may be small? or is it still good for my 1.6L

Schister66

it would work well and have good low end response, but might run out of breath at high revs.......it will make good streetable fun power....

Finest

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by damnraz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since it's an IHI, you're saying it may be small? or is it still good for my 1.6L</TD></TR></TABLE>

Perfectly fine.

Remember, most guys on here go with the minimum SC61 on a B16.

Tactic$

I'm in love w/ my T3/T04e .50 trim

Stock b16.

ek9vboi2

300whp. lol... noob.

try to get a bigger turbo and then maybe u can hit 300whp. power is not easy to make unless u got 1 badass tuner and turn that boost up.

16g... sounds like it belongs on a SOHC motor. Sorry to say, but aim lower and when you make more power u will be happy.

TheThiefTheKnife'NTheGun

I think he could get pretty close to 300 with a 16g it might start to dip at high revs but I think its more effiecient of a turbo than you are giving it credit for..

damnraz

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9vboi2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">300whp. lol... noob.

try to get a bigger turbo and then maybe u can hit 300whp. power is not easy to make unless u got 1 badass tuner and turn that boost up.

16g... sounds like it belongs on a SOHC motor. Sorry to say, but aim lower and when you make more power u will be happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just remember, I still got a t3/t4 .60 trim , Yea I'm new to boost, so what? everyone starts somewhere. Also, this is not your average tdo5-16G, it's custom from XS engineering, and it's ball bearing, doesn't have none of that water cooled crap. My goals are 300whp, It doesn't seem like much to me but that's what I want, if I can't do it w/ my 16G killer, I can do it w/ my t3/t4 .60 trim, .63 AR no problem. The only thing that's holding me back is a rebuild. But it's not that big of a deal, if I'm better off w/ a bigger turbo and you guys think I'll be happy w/ it. I'll rebuild it. If you guys think the 16G killer might be a fun, streetable, and will be able run 12's a 1/4 mile, I'll be fine w/ that. If anybody else got any opinion please enlighten me, if you have something bad to say, go ahead and say it, It's entertaining. Thanks

LoSt is BlaCk

have you compared the price of a rebuild vs. the 16g killer?

damnraz

Rebuild is $399 w/ 1yr warranty at alamo turbocharger services based in kent, wa.. my 16G killer has no shaft play and it's in perfect working condition.

ella94

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek9vboi2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">300whp. lol... noob.

try to get a bigger turbo and then maybe u can hit 300whp. power is not easy to make unless u got 1 badass tuner and turn that boost up.

16g... sounds like it belongs on a SOHC motor. Sorry to say, but aim lower and when you make more power u will be happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dont listen to this dumbass. A T28 is a excellent piece to use on a street car making 250-300whp. A new pump, bigger injectors, and a good exhuast system. Get it tuned and 250-300whp will come pretty cheap and easy. Will make good power even on stock b16 cams.

A very common mistake made by people on here is they sellect a turbo way to big for their goals. People using t3/t40b and t3/t61s and **** bigger than that with .63+ a/r. Spooling at 5500~ or so with a fat powerband is not what you want on a street machine. A quick spooling broad powerband topping out at 300whp is a killer street car and would eat corvettes all day long.

Btw, factory pistons will be fine. They start to go bad in a b16 around 350-400whp. The rods are a different storey. Id get forged rods/ 9:1 pistons and get it tuned. You'll motor will thank you with years of trouble free miles.

damnraz

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ella94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Dont listen to this dumbass. A T28 is a excellent piece to use on a street car making 250-300whp. A new pump, bigger injectors, and a good exhuast system. Get it tuned and 250-300whp will come pretty cheap and easy. Will make good power even on stock b16 cams.

A very common mistake made by people on here is they sellect a turbo way to big for their goals. People using t3/t40b and t3/t61s and **** bigger than that with .63+ a/r. Spooling at 5500~ or so with a fat powerband is not what you want on a street machine. A quick spooling broad powerband topping out at 300whp is a killer street car and would eat corvettes all day long.

Btw, factory pistons will be fine. They start to go bad in a b16 around 350-400whp. The rods are a different storey. Id get forged rods/ 9:1 pistons and get it tuned. You'll motor will thank you with years of trouble free miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here's what I have so far:

t3/t4 hybird .60/.63AR or 16G Killer (IHI AX-1)
2x8x24 (estimate) johnny racecar intercooler
255lph intank walbro fuel pump
450cc dsm injectors w/ resistor box
spark racing equal length turbo manifold flanged for t3
38mm TIAL wastegate at .7 bar (10psi spring)
greddy type s bov
chipped and socketed p28 (going to tune w/ crome)

needs:
2.5" charge pipes, couplers, t-bolt clamps I'll fab the intercooler piping
dumptube &lt;- will fab up
downpipe &lt;- will fab up
still in need of 3" exhaust, boost, oil pressure, EGT gauge (maybe EGT)

I think that's it. Other than that, the only thing I probably would need to upgrade from my list is my injectors, I might have to run at 100% duty cycle to hit my expectations.