14B on F/H series??..too small??
01-05-2003, 02:24 PM
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14B on F/H series??..too small??
I'm building my own custom turbo kit on my accord/F22B.....I'll use the 14B from 1st gen dsm....is that turbo too small??...I'm planning boost less than 9PSI
01-05-2003, 05:04 PM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (Hmmmm)
What about the 16G??...or 18G??...actualy, I need something to fit on a dsm manifold....
I have a F22B Dohc 160HP + Ractive header custom 2 1/4 xhaust...and a short ram intake.....
http://clubaccordquebec.com/francais/members/alain.html
[Modified by lowexr, 2:06 AM 1/6/2003]
I have a F22B Dohc 160HP + Ractive header custom 2 1/4 xhaust...and a short ram intake.....
http://clubaccordquebec.com/francais/members/alain.html
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01-05-2003, 05:41 PM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (SiRkid)
ack....you wont have anything above probably 5k
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01-05-2003, 06:08 PM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (Hmmmm)
ack....you wont have anything above probably 5k
[Modified by SiRkid, 11:52 PM 1/5/2003]
A 4g63 only has .2L less and it pulls to a 7500 redline (i think its 7500). A 4g63 flows much better than a F-series non-vtec head. I think it would be fine.
[Modified by SiRkid, 11:52 PM 1/5/2003]
A 4g63 only has .2L less and it pulls to a 7500 redline (i think its 7500). A 4g63 flows much better than a F-series non-vtec head. I think it would be fine.
01-05-2003, 08:26 PM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (RyanAutry)
i was just going to say... with a few mods they open up a little more to say about 6 k but thats about it.
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01-05-2003, 08:55 PM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (RyanAutry)
ack....you wont have anything above probably 5k
[Modified by SiRkid, 11:52 PM 1/5/2003]
A 4g63 only has .2L less and it pulls to a 7500 redline (i think its 7500). A 4g63 flows much better than a F-series non-vtec head. I think it would be fine.
a 14b doesnt pull to 7500 on a 4g63.. i don't know what eclipse you've driven in. But they're die out around 5000rpm.
[Modified by SiRkid, 11:52 PM 1/5/2003]
A 4g63 only has .2L less and it pulls to a 7500 redline (i think its 7500). A 4g63 flows much better than a F-series non-vtec head. I think it would be fine.
a 14b doesnt pull to 7500 on a 4g63.. i don't know what eclipse you've driven in. But they're die out around 5000rpm.
01-05-2003, 10:22 PM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (Speed PHreak)
ack....you wont have anything above probably 5k
[Modified by SiRkid, 11:52 PM 1/5/2003]
A 4g63 only has .2L less and it pulls to a 7500 redline (i think its 7500). A 4g63 flows much better than a F-series non-vtec head. I think it would be fine.
a 14b doesnt pull to 7500 on a 4g63.. i don't know what eclipse you've driven in. But they're die out around 5000rpm.
Word, I've got a 90 Talon TSi AWD as my daily driver now. In the 3-5K RPM range the perform very admirably. But anything above 5500 on a stock setup feels like it just runs out of breath. The 4G63 is a stout engine, i've got a good bit of respect for it, and i'm a Honda man. It's got 7K redline with a 1.7:1 rod stroke ratio. I mean the engine would have no problem revving to 8K if it could make power up there.
[Modified by SiRkid, 11:52 PM 1/5/2003]
A 4g63 only has .2L less and it pulls to a 7500 redline (i think its 7500). A 4g63 flows much better than a F-series non-vtec head. I think it would be fine.
a 14b doesnt pull to 7500 on a 4g63.. i don't know what eclipse you've driven in. But they're die out around 5000rpm.
Word, I've got a 90 Talon TSi AWD as my daily driver now. In the 3-5K RPM range the perform very admirably. But anything above 5500 on a stock setup feels like it just runs out of breath. The 4G63 is a stout engine, i've got a good bit of respect for it, and i'm a Honda man. It's got 7K redline with a 1.7:1 rod stroke ratio. I mean the engine would have no problem revving to 8K if it could make power up there.
btw, whoever of you sent me an IM, I cant read it cuz i'm a trial user
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01-06-2003, 04:32 AM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (Hmmmm)
the only thing that i can think of is that for low boost setups (like most custom honda turbos) stock turbos dont flow enough air at low boost to be efficient. most DSM's running 12's on the stock turbo arent running 8 psi... more like 20. however i do belive that the DSM turbo mani will bolt up with minor modification to your engine (which is why im assuming your posting this) so just try out the 14b and see for yourself. im sure theres not alot of people speaking from actuall experience here that have had that turbo on a f22
01-06-2003, 06:47 AM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (JCushing)
The DSM mani do bolt up to my engine...the kit is almost complete....I bought the dsm mani+14B+450CC from a friend for real cheap...
But like you say, nobody have any exoerience with that kind of set-up....I'll see by myself....
I think that it will be perfect for custom set-up(dont really care if it die over 5K) but the 14B will probably wont last long(du to over spinning to reach the max boost on my 2200CC engine....)
But like you say, nobody have any exoerience with that kind of set-up....I'll see by myself....
I think that it will be perfect for custom set-up(dont really care if it die over 5K) but the 14B will probably wont last long(du to over spinning to reach the max boost on my 2200CC engine....)
Can't wait to see what you get, good luck!
01-06-2003, 07:34 AM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (lowexr)
I think that it will be perfect for custom set-up(dont really care if it die over 5K) but the 14B will probably wont last long(du to over spinning to reach the max boost on my 2200CC engine....)
01-06-2003, 10:03 PM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (Speed PHreak)
That exactly what i'm looking for 
......do you think that I could hit the 200WHP....IT's actually my goal...I should be close to 140 to 145Whp right now..and i'm planing to boost it up to 8 PSI...with the SMC+...
I did 15.11 my fastest run....I have a 13.99 sec goal...by the end of summer...Will I be close??....
......do you think that I could hit the 200WHP....IT's actually my goal...I should be close to 140 to 145Whp right now..and i'm planing to boost it up to 8 PSI...with the SMC+...I did 15.11 my fastest run....I have a 13.99 sec goal...by the end of summer...Will I be close??....
01-07-2003, 07:20 AM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (lowexr)
i tihnk you could hit 200 whp..
youll like the midrange but trust me youll hate not having top end.
depending on traction you might beable to hit 13.99.
goodluck and keep us posted.. your set up is cheap..might aswell try it and use it as a learning experience...
youll like the midrange but trust me youll hate not having top end.
depending on traction you might beable to hit 13.99.
goodluck and keep us posted.. your set up is cheap..might aswell try it and use it as a learning experience...
01-07-2003, 11:29 AM
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Re: 14B on F/H series??..too small?? (SiRkid)
No prob...I'll keep you up tu date.... 
Btw: I can't just imagine what this kind of set-up could do in a 92 hatch
...maybe one of the best bang for the buck....
[Modified by lowexr, 8:31 PM 1/7/2003]
Btw: I can't just imagine what this kind of set-up could do in a 92 hatch
...maybe one of the best bang for the buck....[Modified by lowexr, 8:31 PM 1/7/2003]
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