Finest

Well, not totally stock...but stock sleeves and rods. Is there something they're not telling us? I would think the rods would give at that much boost...must be in the tuning I guess? Any thoughts?

b18b98

i thought inlinepro had a 10 second car with a stock block?

Mr. Softee

I think a couple people have achieved this...

Ri5e

Karl's at Inline pro ran a 10.5, Stock sleeves.

jinxproof99

i ran 10.70 with stock sleeves and FULL interior. inlinepro bought the car, added nitrous(YO!) and went 10.41. with interior, street legal. car weights 2400+ with driver.

Finest

Yea, I know a FEW guys have run 10's with stock sleeves. But stock rods as well?

BTW, jinx is an exception. His cars are freaks!

SiRkid

LOOK at how light that car is....
its possible with that power.
hmm..now i gotta somehow get my pig from 2700 to 2300 or so

inlinePRO

actually....

Karl's old car at 1.8BAR went 10.40 WITHOUT nitrous and hit 140.5 mph at 2450lbs with driver....(with stock sleeves)

at one point we were toying around with the idea of adding nitrous. depending on how the car tunes at 2.2bar we may not add the bottle.

Kevin Inge's car went 10.71 @ 20 psi with a bone stock block(stock pistons and rods) with an inlinePRO headgasket and the addition of nitrous. (about 2350 w/driver)

Apex i ITR

I thought you couldn't use after market pistons with stock rods (Will without mods anyway).

Elite Hatch

Stock rods can hold. So can stock blocks. Inline does it all day all the time. I got a stock block running 14lbs on the street daily with just an Inline headgasket

MatT3T4

Stock motors are strong as hell. Stock motor, stock compression, good tuning = fast car.

tygsr

I should have my ignorant friends come on and read this thread. My motor is finished just waiting on the slow *** shop to put it in. ANyways I went with JE pistons and eagle rods, kept stock sleeves. Everyone is always giving me **** for not sleeving my block." your going to blow it again, blah, blah. When I had a boost spike on stock internals the block probably saw 20+ psi. Sleeves are perfectly fine. ROds were fine. One piston cracked and the ring landings were gone. THis time I have the EMS, a confident tuner, forged pistons and rods, head work, victor x manifold, etc. On the street the max boost I will run is probably 10 on pump gas, 20 on race gas. THese other guys like jinx are running more boost and faster times and no problems...the guy tuning my car ran 465 on just forged pistons and rods and hondata. ITs all about tuning!!! They shall soon be believers..

FOrSfEd

Yes I can not agree with you more, building a strong motor is great. but it all comes down to how well you tune the car.

Lee

ninesecrx

I was on a bone stock gsr engine with dfi and 17 pounds. This motor was in my race car chassis when we were useing it to set the chasis up. The car weighed over 2100 pounds then and went 11.1 so tens on a stock motor is very capable. Logevity is more of the question.

littlebluecrx

ah bullshit...! it did have the bottle.

inlinePRO

yeah.. it was hiding under the passenger seat

littlebluecrx

Well I will look a little closer and see if that is the case, but if I was Karl I would be a little upset that I spent all that money, and my car would not hit past 133 half the time, and now all of a sudden his car is hitting 140, when the shop that built it bought it?Picked up all that mile and hour all of sudden, with tunning at almost 29 pounds, and no bottle when all of a sudden the quick class car got the bottle also?Yeah I must be wrong, unless ya swaped motor's? from the quick class car?Nah you guy's dont want to beat me that bad? do ya? Jason

Dublocivic

I would think Karl could drive his car best seeing as it was his car and all... you tend to become used to the individual vehicle.... Ive watched Stan and Karl drive and they can handle thier machines well.. so you can rule out driver as a reason for the car going THAT much faster.. a lil sneaky pete somewhere?
I noticed that too

jinxproof99

the car doesn't have a bottle. i was told it did, but it doesn't. the car made major power at alot of boost(i won't say how much) and the track was hooking perfectly. stan went 140 mph with no nitrous. he is a good driver and the car is tuned well. i have no hard feelings. i went 10.70 and that was easily my goal last year. i wish i didn't have to sell it but i had no choice. i knew i had to 3-4 months ago and pretty much threw in the towel then. i hope this is the end of this conversation.

inlinePRO

jason... i thought you were just joking about the nitrous...

up in Atco... we changed ABSOLUTELY nothing on the car since karl owned it... we were running at 1.7 bar... i ran 10.9 first pass i made in the car, and worked it down to a 10.54 @ 137mph in the finals against you, changing nothing all day... and from that weekend until battle, all we did was up the boost. keep in mind karl did run a 10.7 in the car so i haven't gone that much quicker with more boost. if you want to, feel free to look over the car this weekend if you make it down to NC. nitrous is allowed in the class so we would have no reason to hide it.

FYI, karl's old car has had the same motor (with our headgasket in it which is clearly visible) since last year.. never been out. The race car has the same knocking motor that we ran at battle @ MIR.

as far as beating you or anyone for that matter, isn't that the goal of racing??
why are you so concerned about the car going faster?? we never complained about the 300lbs or a bigger motor.

racing is racing. good luck to all

littlebluecrx

Well, Karl's car went 10.7 in june hardly ever to see 10's again till september, for what ever reason that is I will never know I can just speculate.6 or 7 mile an hour, and 3 tenths, "more if you consider the last time his car was out it was hitting 11.1's"I do admit, that my words had nothing to do with Karl, and they are opinions not fact, but if they have struck nerve nothing personal free speech.If the car is running better now good , and believe me the car is very impressive, and so is your driving, not neccesarily your sportsmanship, that needs work.As far as weight and bigger motor, please did not tell me that you or anyone else at inline justifies my car's performance because of weight and motor, it is at the completion of every sentence when my name is brought up.I run a lot less boost then you and have a shorter wheelbase, worried about weight " dont let me go there".Why do you think me and Charlie are building a coupe next year.I not concerned about the car going faster I am surprised it took all year to hit mid 10's,I hope you only go faster cause so will I good luck may be I will go to nc after all.Jason

avividmemory

is it really safe to boost 16-20 psi on stock internals? just wondering cuz im considering what swap i want this winter...leaning towards the b18c1...or even b16a2...what are your thoughts on that in an integra
would keep non-vtec...but i also have vtec fever hehe

Elite Hatch

"we never complained about the 300lbs or a bigger motor. "

Bringing Up weight is not an issue, its all about the rules dont compair weight to weight motor size to motor size cuz thats not what matters, ET is all that matters and if you are following the rules....Jason your car is VERY impressive. Congratulations Stan nice to see Karls car is in good hands.


[Modified by Elite Hatch, 11:54 PM 10/8/2002]

avividmemory

anyone?

SlowTeg

Sure, why not...? Just make sure it's tuned well at high boost. Any reason why you want to run 16-20psi? I'd rather shoot for a certain amount of power, then just a boost level.

-Mike