slow poke

The sleeves are about 7mm or so thick and there spaced about 7mm from the block's wall at the smallest point. Bore is either 81mm(stock) or 81.5mm. What do you guys think? Didn't seem like there was any way a block guard my friend had lying around would ever fit in the block. I have never built a motor so I have no clue here. Let me know what you think. Thanks

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tony413

yes

slow poke

Obviously I am talking about aftermarket sleeves here...

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Any idea what company did it? How can you tell?

Thanks

drumking15

stock replacements....not aftermarket


Modified by drumking15 at 2:29 PM 8/5/2007

Mr HYDE

the 2 tone sleeve leads me to believe they are stock

tokesGTR

if tony413 says yes, you can bet money it's going to be a no.

slow poke

Everybody makes mistakes... Bump for some more input.

Thanks

Soccerking3000

they are not stock those are darton press in sleeves, notice how much thicker the iron part of the sleeve is? The engine is sleeved, i'd put money on it, not to mention that each iron liner is touching the adjacent liner where in a stock motor they would be just barely touching if at all

slow poke

Those were the exact same indications that were leading me to believe they were not stock. The sleeves seemed allot thicker then I remembered. Plus, the block guard didn't seem like it would EVER fit in there but again I am not 100% on that.

Please keep the opinions coming

SovXietday

[QUOTE=Soccerking3000]they are not stock those are darton press in sleeves, notice how much thicker the iron part of the sleeve is? The engine is sleeved, i'd put money on it, not to mention that each iron liner is touching the adjacent liner where in a stock motor they would be just barely touching if at

x2, definitely darton sleeves.

Soccerking3000

i dont think there needs to be any more "opinions" the block is sleeved, they arent full replacement sleeves but it IS sleeved and will do its purpose.

nvmyb20hatch

i had a motor that was very similar to this that was sleeved by arias, who subleted theyre work to rs machine for their open deck sleeves a few years ago. they used dartons for the closed deck sleeve design, but this is rsmachine. search arias sleeves in archived

slow poke

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soccerking3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think there needs to be any more "opinions" the block is sleeved, they arent full replacement sleeves but it IS sleeved and will do its purpose.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Id like more opinions as everyone is not really in an agreement at this point. I believe you that it is I am just trying to see what other people have to say. I would like to find out the brand as well if possible. Thanks

Iv never heard of a difference between "full replacement" and non- full replacement. I know most companies leave some part of the stock sleeves, is that what you are talking about?

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So you believe these were done by RS Machine? Does RS machine use darton sleeves for open deck or do they have there own?

Thanks

1995Civic

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Id like more opinions as everyone is not really in an agreement at this point. I believe you that it is I am just trying to see what other people have to say.Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you search HT a little more, you will find that not everyone will always agree

The block is sleeved as SoccerKing stated. I would listen to that person...the knowledge is definitely there!

Mr HYDE

darton and benson are a solid cast iron sleeve, those ones pictured look to be 2 materials.

slow poke

GiNuWiNe

It's sleeved, stock sleeves are thinner compared to those.

Soccerking3000

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darton makes press in iron liners that are thicker than stock and are not a complete replacement.

As for the different between a full replacement sleeve and a partial replacement, a full replacement, replaces the iron liner and the outer aluminum liner with a solid ductile iron sleeve, a partial replacement replaces just the inner iron liner with a thicker one while still leaving part of the aluminum outer support there.

rainmanEK

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Haha

Eric

Soccerking3000

and as i look at the pictures more the outer ring might not even be aluminum and might just be from the headgasket seal, but i can't tell for certain

GetawayInMoscow

Looks kinda like AEBS sleeves

riceball777

yes the block is sleeved and they are not stock sleeves
the people that say its stock sleeves are blind

5150chubbs

there not AEBS sleeves

tony413

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whats your problem leave me out of your post i've done nothing to you expletive off

SlowReaction

Those are aftermarket sleeves. You can tell because each clyinder has a a line that shows that there individual sleeves. This style is like the Benson ,Rs machine style.