**Turbo Choices please help*****
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**Turbo Choices please help*****
ok heres the deal i originally wanted to run a 35r but i looked into a few other turbos.. and they dont require coolant lines and are cheaper... BTW i am looking for a turbo that can support at least 600whp but is a good turbo for street as well as track.... i want something that aint super laggy i dont mind lag but not a shitload... this will be on built motor with victor x manifold... 83 bore.... i wanna make around 400 or so on pump gas and low boost and around 600 or so on race gas
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these ?'s blow please think about what you truely want.
if money is not an issue get a borg warner S366 and call it a day. dont even consider any other turbos that is the one.
if money is not an issue get a borg warner S366 and call it a day. dont even consider any other turbos that is the one.
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who said money isnt an issue... i have a legitamate question that i am looking for answers.... no reason to flame.... i dont wann spen no more than 900 for turbo i thought about 35r but then their is coolant lines yada yadayada
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for what your wanting money is gonna come into theres no way around i found that out the hard way umm look into a garrett 4088 you may have to run about 30psi tho to get 600whp and maybe around 20ish psi
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony413 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">these ?'s blow please think about what you truely want.
if money is not an issue get a borg warner S366 and call it a day. dont even consider any other turbos that is the one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The S366 is alittle big for your goals. The S362 is more street friendly. I have a couple customers that are making 500whp on pump gas and over 650whp on race gas with the S362.
The 66 can support over 700whp.
if money is not an issue get a borg warner S366 and call it a day. dont even consider any other turbos that is the one. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The S366 is alittle big for your goals. The S362 is more street friendly. I have a couple customers that are making 500whp on pump gas and over 650whp on race gas with the S362.
The 66 can support over 700whp.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TTT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The S366 is alittle big for your goals. The S362 is more street friendly. I have a couple customers that are making 500whp on pump gas and over 650whp on race gas with the S362.
The 66 can support over 700whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
both those turbos are over his $900 budget by about $300+ also and for the money i like the S366
The S366 is alittle big for your goals. The S362 is more street friendly. I have a couple customers that are making 500whp on pump gas and over 650whp on race gas with the S362.
The 66 can support over 700whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>
both those turbos are over his $900 budget by about $300+ also and for the money i like the S366
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TTT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry did not see the price point</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah thats the only reason i suggested a non BW turbo 4088
yeah thats the only reason i suggested a non BW turbo 4088
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony413 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for what your wanting money is gonna come into theres no way around i found that out the hard way umm look into a garrett 4088 you may have to run about 30psi tho to get 600whp and maybe around 20ish psi </TD></TR></TABLE>
Found out what the hard way? You haven't built or owned ****, so don't even talk.
I think the 3082 is a little small on the turbine side. Air needs to get out just as much as it needs to go on. I'd run a 3582R and be done with it.
Found out what the hard way? You haven't built or owned ****, so don't even talk.
I think the 3082 is a little small on the turbine side. Air needs to get out just as much as it needs to go on. I'd run a 3582R and be done with it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tokesGTR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Found out what the hard way? You haven't built or owned ****, so don't even talk.
I think the 3082 is a little small on the turbine side. Air needs to get out just as much as it needs to go on. I'd run a 3582R and be done with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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to OP look into a 4088 its oil cooled and should hit your demands
Found out what the hard way? You haven't built or owned ****, so don't even talk.
I think the 3082 is a little small on the turbine side. Air needs to get out just as much as it needs to go on. I'd run a 3582R and be done with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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to OP look into a 4088 its oil cooled and should hit your demands
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsvtechatch92 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about any of the turbos i listed</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think that to hold out on a GT35R which suits your goals about as perfectly as any other turbo, simply because of a few hundred dollars cost and having to run coolant lines would be rediculous. Coolant lines aren't hard to run.
I think that to hold out on a GT35R which suits your goals about as perfectly as any other turbo, simply because of a few hundred dollars cost and having to run coolant lines would be rediculous. Coolant lines aren't hard to run.
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its not running the coolant lines... its the money for the coolant lines... its not that i dont have money..its just i have put way more than expected... i have ss braided hose for everything.... for coolant lines its another 200 dollars plus 300 more for the turbo... which is 500
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsvtechatch92 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its not running the coolant lines... its the money for the coolant lines... its not that i dont have money..its just i have put way more than expected... i have ss braided hose for everything.... for coolant lines its another 200 dollars plus 300 more for the turbo... which is 500</TD></TR></TABLE>
Based upon all of these constraints, I'd say your options are limited.
Used T3/T67 (H.O. or otherwise)
GT4088 Journal bearing (typically it comes in T4 flanging)
Or save a bit more... S362
Based upon all of these constraints, I'd say your options are limited.
Used T3/T67 (H.O. or otherwise)
GT4088 Journal bearing (typically it comes in T4 flanging)
Or save a bit more... S362
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dont run braided coolant lines..
i dint wanna pay extra for braided ones either..
hell run it without the coolant lines for a couple weeks til ur next paycheque it aint the end of the world
i dint wanna pay extra for braided ones either..
hell run it without the coolant lines for a couple weeks til ur next paycheque it aint the end of the world
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This isn't a cheap hobby. In order to get a turbo that fits your exact needs is going to be very hard, but i think in the end, your best bet is either the Journal Bearing GT4088 or the BW S362
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like i said from the beginning
GT4088 its good size cheap and works great.
to 187Chor: thats not the best advice turbos make heat and without proper cooling for the bearings dont even bother
GT4088 its good size cheap and works great.
to 187Chor: thats not the best advice turbos make heat and without proper cooling for the bearings dont even bother
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Re: (lsvtechatch92)
depends on what you consider laggy but expect spool up around 4500-4700rpms. all the questions you are asking are going to vary from motor to motor. give some details on your set-up
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83mm cp pistons
eagle rods
b16 head springs and retainers
ramhorn manifold
tial 41mm wg
turbo???????????/
1000cc injectors
victor x
2.5 charge piping w back door on t side
tial bov 50mm
how would the t3/t67 with .63 ar or .82 ar spool i dont wanna have alot off back pressure...
eagle rods
b16 head springs and retainers
ramhorn manifold
tial 41mm wg
turbo???????????/
1000cc injectors
victor x
2.5 charge piping w back door on t side
tial bov 50mm
how would the t3/t67 with .63 ar or .82 ar spool i dont wanna have alot off back pressure...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lsvtechatch92 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">83mm cp pistons
eagle rods
b16 head springs and retainers
ramhorn manifold
tial 41mm wg
turbo???????????/
1000cc injectors
victor x
2.5 charge piping w back door on t side
tial bov 50mm
how would the t3/t67 with .63 ar or .82 ar spool i dont wanna have alot off back pressure... </TD></TR></TABLE>
good set-up
the best way to decrease backpressure is to go with a larger turbine A/R. and have ATLEAST a 3" DP and exhaust.
lag time on the T67 is around the same time as the GT4088. theres no decent way your going to hit 600Whp on a t3 .63a/r turbine. on a 1.9L so strach it off the list. as someone mentioned earlier look at a T67 high output from full-race, but that turbo is also in the $1000+ ball park
eagle rods
b16 head springs and retainers
ramhorn manifold
tial 41mm wg
turbo???????????/
1000cc injectors
victor x
2.5 charge piping w back door on t side
tial bov 50mm
how would the t3/t67 with .63 ar or .82 ar spool i dont wanna have alot off back pressure... </TD></TR></TABLE>
good set-up
the best way to decrease backpressure is to go with a larger turbine A/R. and have ATLEAST a 3" DP and exhaust.
lag time on the T67 is around the same time as the GT4088. theres no decent way your going to hit 600Whp on a t3 .63a/r turbine. on a 1.9L so strach it off the list. as someone mentioned earlier look at a T67 high output from full-race, but that turbo is also in the $1000+ ball park
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listen here dude sometimes people have to learn **** for them selves.... once upon a time there was no such thing as the internet.....
anyways look around quit being a noob..
anyways look around quit being a noob..