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Old 03-04-2010, 11:46 AM
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Ok fellas, back again with yet another question.

Ok so im doin my eagle/vitara build in my d series, no block guard, no sleeves, just rods and pistons, and no head work.

Questions- How much boost can the engine handle safely and last me a few years, and how much boost can a factory map sensor read since I dont have anymore money to dump into the hatch rite now?

Thanks for the help guys.
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is this a different car than your other thread? i thought you already had a 3bar tuned on hondata?

regardless, the stock map only reads to about 10.2-10.7psi. after that you are pulling fuel and timing values from the last column which can become unsafe as boost pressure continues to increase. ex: you are running 15psi but the ecu is only adding fuel/timing like you were still at 10
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get a good tune and run 10psi at most. depending on how much you on it you can get 2 yrs . get a honddata s 300 they work great and have tons of protection
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Default Re: ***Stock map sensor on boost question***

Originally Posted by dpetro1
is this a different car than your other thread? i thought you already had a 3bar tuned on hondata?

regardless, the stock map only reads to about 10.2-10.7psi. after that you are pulling fuel and timing values from the last column which can become unsafe as boost pressure continues to increase. ex: you are running 15psi but the ecu is only adding fuel/timing like you were still at 10
No, this is his actual car, the other is of his friends car.
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Default Re: ***Stock map sensor on boost question***

Originally Posted by dpetro1
regardless, the stock map only reads to about 10.2-10.7psi. after that you are pulling fuel and timing values from the last column which can become unsafe as boost pressure continues to increase. ex: you are running 15psi but the ecu is only adding fuel/timing like you were still at 10
Exactly.

Moral of the stock Map Sensor story is don't run anymore than 10psi. Put a boost cut at 10.0000 Psi in whatever program you are using and don't go over it.

Trying to push it on a stock map sensor without a boost cut is leaving the car unprotected if the WG line pops off/melts and you spike to 25 psi or so.
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my obd0 map sensor never reported boost over 8.6psi. not sure why.

just get another map sensor they are like $60.
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Default Re: ***Stock map sensor on boost question***

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Exactly.

Moral of the stock Map Sensor story is don't run anymore than 10psi. Put a boost cut at 10.0000 Psi in whatever program you are using and don't go over it.

Trying to push it on a stock map sensor without a boost cut is leaving the car unprotected if the WG line pops off/melts and you spike to 25 psi or so.
learned that from you in the first place
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Default Re: ***Stock map sensor on boost question***

ok I decided to buy a block guard so I did, golden eagle. How many lbs of boost could I run safely with a 3 bar map sesor?
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1000psi ... lol i'm j/k matt, hoping you can run your 16psi
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