$5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo?
07-25-2004, 12:47 PM
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$5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo?
i have $5000 to spend on an engine and setup... i need to buy every single piece for the swap into a del Sol... including mounts and wiring harness.
i want to know if buying a b20 longblock, a b16 tranny and a turbo setup is possible for $5000. i would prefer to go hondata, as to make it as reliable as possible. also, i have heard i will have to swap intake manifolds, is this true....
i searched for this, but alas, not much.. its hard to find info when you are on a specific budget, or looking for del sol ****..
i wonder if anyone has estimated prices on this setup... i want to explore my options before i go with b16 with bolt ons...
i want to know if buying a b20 longblock, a b16 tranny and a turbo setup is possible for $5000. i would prefer to go hondata, as to make it as reliable as possible. also, i have heard i will have to swap intake manifolds, is this true....
i searched for this, but alas, not much.. its hard to find info when you are on a specific budget, or looking for del sol ****..
i wonder if anyone has estimated prices on this setup... i want to explore my options before i go with b16 with bolt ons...
07-25-2004, 01:07 PM
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Re: $5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo? (jbell)
B20 swap on boost. Well it might be possible if u do a budget turbo setup, and get a screamin deal on the engine swap.
07-25-2004, 01:29 PM
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Re: $5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo? (Honda_Tengoku)
The word on the street is that B20 sleeves suck donkey *****. So unless your planning on sleeving the block I wouldn't boost it much at all. I would go with a uberdata over hondata though if your on a budget. No point in spending extra money for software if you don't need to. $5,000 should get you an LS swap and custom turbo kit. You could probably even slapa vtec head on the LS block too with that much money.
07-25-2004, 01:32 PM
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Re: $5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo? (beerbongskickass)
hrm. instead of b20 go b18?
does it have the same potential?
instead of going lsvtec, i rather go sleeved ls.
does it have the same potential?
instead of going lsvtec, i rather go sleeved ls.
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Re: $5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo? (jbell)
If your going with the stock sleeves and boost then yes I would go with the LS over the B20. You will flow more air and make more power by slapping a vtec head on the block too. If your going to be sleeving and building the motor then it won't matter what engine you go with. I don't think $5,000 will get you a complete swap, sleeved built motor, and a custom turbo kit though. You also have to think about getting a good clutch and 3 inch exhaust.
07-25-2004, 01:52 PM
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Re: $5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo? (beerbongskickass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your going with the stock sleeves and boost then yes I would go with the LS over the B20. You will flow more air and make more power by slapping a vtec head on the block too. If your going to be sleeving and building the motor then it won't matter what engine you go with. I don't think $5,000 will get you a complete swap, sleeved built motor, and a custom turbo kit though. You also have to think about getting a good clutch and 3 inch exhaust.</TD></TR></TABLE>
there is already money aside for that..
i think i may go built bottom end d16 turbo.
there is already money aside for that..
i think i may go built bottom end d16 turbo.
07-25-2004, 01:57 PM
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b20 to b18 to d16...sounds like you've got almost every engine choice running through your mind. I was the same way at first...and the thing to do is pick one and keep your focus on that one...even if you change your mind halfway through the build, follow through with your original intent, or you'll never have anything done.
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07-25-2004, 02:28 PM
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I honestly think with that budget you could build the best setup with a B18B and custom turbo kit. You could possibly even have enough to build up the internals a bit with the extra cash. So, if I was you, I would stick with a B18B and not worry about the vtec head yet. Especially if your on a budget.
What kind of power are you looking for?
What kind of power are you looking for?
07-25-2004, 03:15 PM
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if your looking for around 250 whp then a b18b would be perfect for you. You can get a longblock for around 400-600. Pistons/rods around 800. Custom turbo kit around 3k with hondata. and then tuning and assembly. **** you dont even need pistons and rods if your just looking for around 250.
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John, I think you need to buy a damn car first, I have seen atleast 20 post from you asking what motor you should do etc, on 2 different boards... BUY A CAR FIRST, then decide, seriously... 
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Re: $5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo? (jbell)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think i may go built bottom end d16 turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I like this idea because that's exactly what I am doing.
I like this idea because that's exactly what I am doing.
07-25-2004, 03:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toolowsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">John, I think you need to buy a damn car first, I have seen atleast 20 post from you asking what motor you should do etc, on 2 different boards... BUY A CAR FIRST, then decide, seriously... </TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toolowsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">John, I think you need to buy a damn car first, I have seen atleast 20 post from you asking what motor you should do etc, on 2 different boards... BUY A CAR FIRST, then decide, seriously... </TD></TR></TABLE>
no.
i want to decide what im doing, so i can base my car purchase around that.
if i decide b20 turbo is the way to go, i'll get a shell. if i want to go sohc turbo, i'll get an si.
</TD></TR></TABLE>no.
i want to decide what im doing, so i can base my car purchase around that.
if i decide b20 turbo is the way to go, i'll get a shell. if i want to go sohc turbo, i'll get an si.
07-25-2004, 04:28 PM
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Re: $5000, is it possible to go B20 Turbo? (jbell)
If it was my project and $5000 I would use a B18B engine with some minor internal changes (ARP rod bolts at the least) and spend the rest on good fuel managment and turbo parts.
Good luck
Good luck
07-25-2004, 04:28 PM
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don't buy hondata
you'll be throwing your money away. with a del sol you're already obd1 so finda nice p28; read up on how to chip it and do a bit of tuning with uberdata.
If you're the uptight type and need your car dyno tuned because you THINK it's safer then most places can handle using uberdata. if not they can pick it up real quick.
just please dont waste your money on hondata
you'll be throwing your money away. with a del sol you're already obd1 so finda nice p28; read up on how to chip it and do a bit of tuning with uberdata.
If you're the uptight type and need your car dyno tuned because you THINK it's safer then most places can handle using uberdata. if not they can pick it up real quick.
just please dont waste your money on hondata
07-25-2004, 04:36 PM
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Definately get a B18B if your goals are 250whp. You can easily be safe on a stock block too. Just spend the time to find a very good tuner and you'll probably have some extra money left over to do some other ****.
07-25-2004, 04:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ComputerJLT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't buy hondata
you'll be throwing your money away. with a del sol you're already obd1 so finda nice p28; read up on how to chip it and do a bit of tuning with uberdata.
If you're the uptight type and need your car dyno tuned because you THINK it's safer then most places can handle using uberdata. if not they can pick it up real quick.
just please dont waste your money on hondata</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok, so i wont.
still trying to figure out what to do with my $5000.
b16 and bolt ons i/h/e & cams
b18c5 with i/e
b18 with bolt ons
d16z6 with rods/pistons and homemade turbo kit...
i figure the d would be the fastest, but this is my daily driver, and it needs to be RELIABLE.
Modified by jbell at 8:51 PM 7/25/2004
you'll be throwing your money away. with a del sol you're already obd1 so finda nice p28; read up on how to chip it and do a bit of tuning with uberdata.
If you're the uptight type and need your car dyno tuned because you THINK it's safer then most places can handle using uberdata. if not they can pick it up real quick.
just please dont waste your money on hondata</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok, so i wont.
still trying to figure out what to do with my $5000.
b16 and bolt ons i/h/e & cams
b18c5 with i/e
b18 with bolt ons
d16z6 with rods/pistons and homemade turbo kit...
i figure the d would be the fastest, but this is my daily driver, and it needs to be RELIABLE.
Modified by jbell at 8:51 PM 7/25/2004
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toolowsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">John if you want to go uberdata, hit me up on HV, I'll get you setup... But first you have to buy a car! 
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im only going with uberdata if i go turbo, and im not sure if im doing that...
i just cant #%@!ing decide what motor!^%!@#*
odds are, i'll wind up needing a chipped ecu either way, so i'll look to you for that... i've seen your sig on hv, i know whats up
</TD></TR></TABLE>im only going with uberdata if i go turbo, and im not sure if im doing that...
i just cant #%@!ing decide what motor!^%!@#*
odds are, i'll wind up needing a chipped ecu either way, so i'll look to you for that... i've seen your sig on hv, i know whats up
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, I spent right at $5K on my turbo kit for my B18A1. I pieced together everything, and am very happy with the setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ha. i wish i had the engine already, and $5k to spend on it. ;p
ha. i wish i had the engine already, and $5k to spend on it. ;p
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built d16z6 sohc vtec + custom turbo set up + good fuel management = under 5 grand...
Plus, if you get a sol or a hatch, you can use stock mounts, axles, etc...
Fun and an underestimated...250whp is easily achieveable on a sohc block.
Plus, if you get a sol or a hatch, you can use stock mounts, axles, etc...
Fun and an underestimated...250whp is easily achieveable on a sohc block.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chillin94hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">built d16z6 sohc vtec + custom turbo set up + good fuel management = under 5 grand...
Plus, if you get a sol or a hatch, you can use stock mounts, axles, etc...
Fun and an underestimated...250whp is easily achieveable on a sohc block. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, but is it relaible, and can i afford pistons and rods?
Plus, if you get a sol or a hatch, you can use stock mounts, axles, etc...
Fun and an underestimated...250whp is easily achieveable on a sohc block.
</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah, but is it relaible, and can i afford pistons and rods?
