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Old 05-13-2017, 12:47 PM
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oh ok sorry to bother you at work its 10h45 here in france
Nah, no worries. I have a bullshit job anyways. In fact, I make the majority of my tuning adjustments here while I'm at work. Not much better than getting paid to tune my own car, right?!
Old 05-13-2017, 12:50 PM
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awesome ! haha i couldnt do that , i drive 80 per cent of time with my job ... but not my car :-/
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I can't download this datalog for some reason.. Dangit. Tried on Google Chrome and Mozilla. Repost it? Saying it is incomplete.
Old 05-13-2017, 01:18 PM
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do you have an email ?
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Sent you a PM
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Ok, finally got a chance to run it.. You need to calibrate your TPS big time lol. It is way off. Your O2 sensor is probably not wired properly also as it is pegged out to max, Given it is at 3.84 volts, i I would say you are on D14? Make sure you are drawing power and ground from the ecu. Tap in to the main 12v ECU power and the main ECU ground then your O2 signal to D14.
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Ok, finally got a chance to run it.. You need to calibrate your TPS big time lol. It is way off. Your O2 sensor is probably not wired properly also as it is pegged out to max, Given it is at 3.84 volts, i I would say you are on D14? Make sure you are drawing power and ground from the ecu. Tap in to the main 12v ECU power and the main ECU ground then your O2 signal to D14.
What value should the tps be at?
The o2 sensor is in d10 eld ( jdm P72)
And ground and positive are linked directly to the ecu, well a few inches from the plugs...
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What value should the be at??

The o2 sensor is in d10 eld ( jdm P72)
And power / ground is straight to the ecu
A few inches from the plugs,
Do you recommend d14? I heard it wasn't a true 5v...?
Using D10 is an option, but preferential. Honestly, you don't really "NEED" 5v as you should NEVER run anywhere near that value, ever. Since you're already there, you may not really need to move it. You probably have to set up the O2 options properly in your preferences and such. You're stuck at 3.84v and if you're on D10, something isn't right. most likely just settings.

Value for TPS should be .45v closed (off pedal) and 4.5v open (wot)
Old 05-13-2017, 03:55 PM
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Using D10 is an option, but preferential. Honestly, you don't really "NEED" 5v as you should NEVER run anywhere near that value, ever. Since you're already there, you may not really need to move it. You probably have to set up the O2 options properly in your preferences and such. You're stuck at 3.84v and if you're on D10, something isn't right. most likely just settings.

Value for TPS should be .45v closed (off pedal) and 4.5v open (wot)
Ok I will adjust that now, I was at 0.5 closed and 4.5 wot
Do you think that was the problem with tps?
For the o2 sensor, I typed the values manually,
0v for 10 afr
4.99 V for 19.98...
Old 05-13-2017, 03:59 PM
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Ok I will adjust that now, I was at 0.5 closed and 4.5 wot
Do you think that was the problem with tps?
For the o2 sensor, I typed the values manually,
0v for 10 afr
4.99 V for 19.98...
Also I have a wideband offset of 0.72 and it is the same in rtp than on the Aem gauge
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Also I have a wideband offset of 0.72 and it is the same in rtp than on the Aem gauge
So it's set properly in the settings? If so, something isn't right with your wiring at the ecu. Did you solder them or just a strip and twist? I didn't cut my wires but just stripped off about a 1/4 inch worth of insulation and wrapped my O2 controller wires then taped up. Anywho.. I had a problem exactly like you're having and my solution was the signal wire had come loose at the ecu wire. I retwisted and retaped and no more problem. Check those to be sure
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So it's set properly in the settings? If so, something isn't right with your wiring at the ecu. Did you solder them or just a strip and twist? I didn't cut my wires but just stripped off about a 1/4 inch worth of insulation and wrapped my O2 controller wires then taped up. Anywho.. I had a problem exactly like you're having and my solution was the signal wire had come loose at the ecu wire. I retwisted and retaped and no more problem. Check those to be sure
I don't see why, I soldered them, then heat shrink tubing and tape... :-/
Could I have a problem with the ecu??
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Ok I will adjust that now, I was at 0.5 closed and 4.5 wot
Do you think that was the problem with tps?
If this was the reading you were getting on your data screen, you may need to actually adjust your TPS until you get the proper reading. Go to the preferences menu and the first page will show the open and closed tps values. Make sure those are proper also, they should be by default.. .45 and 4.5.. base timing is also there. Should be 16..


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For the o2 sensor, I typed the values manually,
0v for 10 afr
4.99 V for 19.98...
I think AEM already has a selection here in O2 brands. I use an Innovate LC-2 and I had to manually enter all my info. Your sensor should also come with the specs in the nifty little guide.
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If this was the reading you were getting on your data screen, you may need to actually adjust your TPS until you get the proper reading. Go to the preferences menu and the first page will show the open and closed tps values. Make sure those are proper also, they should be by default.. .45 and 4.5.. base timing is also there. Should be 16..




I think AEM already has a selection here in O2 brands. I use an Innovate LC-2 and I had to manually enter all my info. Your sensor should also come with the specs in the nifty little guide.
I changed tps values, it was 0.5 closed and 4.5 wot...
How can you see it is way off?
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I don't see why, I soldered them, then heat shrink tubing and tape... :-/
Could I have a problem with the ecu??
Double check your settings in preferences first Make sure you are set on the right one.
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Double check your settings in preferences first Make sure you are set on the right one.
Ok thanks, I will double check tomorrow,
Do you think I should change for d14?
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Ok thanks, I will double check tomorrow,
Do you think I should change for d14?
I forgot to ask,
Di I tick " use VE tables in open loop above ect..."??
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Ok thanks, I will double check tomorrow,
Do you think I should change for d14?
I ran mine to D14. I didn't want to cut out the other resistors to get D10 to work right.R136 and R138 need to be removed, but I don't think that's the case on yours. Couple that with the extra voltage I really didn't need, and I got wired in to D14 lol.
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I forgot to ask,
Di I tick " use VE tables in open loop above ect..."??
No, that's not necessary
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I ran mine to D14. I didn't want to cut out the other resistors to get D10 to work right.R136 and R138 need to be removed, but I don't think that's the case on yours. Couple that with the extra voltage I really didn't need, and I got wired in to D14 lol.
Ok, yeah I read that on jdm you don't need to remove any resistors, I think I will try d14 again to make sure...
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Ok, yeah I read that on jdm you don't need to remove any resistors, I think I will try d14 again to make sure...

Thank you again for your help,
I appreciate it,
I do a lot of research on this since its my first swap project
But some things are difficult to find
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Thank you again for your help,
I appreciate it,
I do a lot of research on this since its my first swap project
But some things are difficult to find
No problem. I ran into a ton of frustrations as well and there were few answers for my issues. Most of which you are going through right now lol. It's fantastic when somebody actually helps with an issue rather than just yelling, "just search, it's been written somewhere... blah blah blah"..
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No problem. I ran into a ton of frustrations as well and there were few answers for my issues. Most of which you are going through right now lol. It's fantastic when somebody actually helps with an issue rather than just yelling, "just search, it's been written somewhere... blah blah blah"..
Cheers
Did you get the photos?
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Did you get the photos?
Absolutely! You swap out a Z6 for the H22?
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Absolutely! You swap out a Z6 for the H22?
It was a d14 (ej9)

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