Hey guys how’s it going

I recently had a local tuner tell me I can run b16 valve springs in my b18b1.

I’ve done a lot of searching and I have found out that certain members have successfully installed b16 valve springs in a non vtec cylinder head so they claim.

Their is quite a few posts around here but most are very very vague..

Anyone have any first hand experience?

I know the b16 runs dual springs in the intake and single on the exhaust.

Most people say all you need is the springs/retainers and some say you need the matching keepers as well?

I know that non vtec heads run thicker valve stems and the non vtec valve springs are also taller.

I feel like this isn’t possible but this guy swears he’s seen it done.

If anybody has any insight I would greatly appreciate it, thanks!

Thank you for your response. I honestly doubted it was possible from my own personal knowledge/experience but the guy and the threads had me second guessing myself.

The reason the tuner tried telling me to run different springs was because I was getting my pretty much stock b18b1 tuned(bolt ons/milled head/cam gears)and I told him that when I launch the car I’ll usually over rev first gear to fall into more power in second. I told him I wasn’t trying to spend 170 on valve springs on stock cams so he told me to try b16 valve springs.

on a side note would anyone know around what rpm the b18b1 should not be revved past due to valve float?

i rev to 7500rpm in first and second occasionally and haven’t noticed any signs of valve float

Do you have any more info what I would need to do this?

do you run the non vtec or vtec retainers/keepers

would you only run the inners on the intake side or would you run the b16 intake inner springs on the exhaust aswell?

i know b16 only runs dual springs on the intake side and the only factory head that runs them on intake and exhaust is the type r b series motors

I just want to clarify a bit further to possibly ease any concerns you may have with my setup/situation. I don’t want you to get the wrong impression of who I am.

first off I don’t think that because and have a civic sedan with a non vtec b series swap I have a full blown race car I try to rev to 8k in every gear cause it’s cool, lol that’s not me.

but I do like to have fun with my setup and I like to get the most out of it.
Currently my b18b1 with mods I listed and stock ls transmission with a 8lb flywheel/6puck clutch and a type r crank pulley makes the setup rev faster but the revs drop even faster. I think I can launch and shift decently well BUT with the long ratios/final drive and the lighter rotating assembly it just doesn’t launch or fall into gear as well as it could.

I know that my power peaks around 6500rpm and the torque peaks even lower, so by revving this high it’s not making me faster in the gear I’m over revving.
What I find that if I over rev the motor a bit(nothing crazy it’s like 700-1000rpm more) I fall closer to my power band in the next gear which makes me a little faster.

I just finished getting all the parts for my new drive train setup which consists of: gsr transmission, used and resurfaced 13lb flywheel(more inertia Should make my launch/shifts harder)new stage 2 full face clutch so I’m not causing excessive wear on my drivetrain and it more than handles the amount of torque the engines making.

with this setup I should have the inertia and gearing to make my car faster than it ever will be over revving my current setup.
Now if I come up with a cheap valve spring solution, I will see if over revving helps this new setup at all.


And maybe I am too hopeful that I can frankstien oem parts to build a better setup but Im only thinking this way because of my experience in the past.

I got my first car witch was a 93 dx hatch and wanted something faster without yet swapping and I came across d series.org
and thanks to info previously posted and random questions I asked mista bone/tranzex and nastycanasta I built a d15beast7 Frankenstein with parts from 4 other d series motors total so that’s why I’m so keen on trying to make oem parts fit.

just thought I’d share this so you don’t get the wrong idea of who I am or don’t feel like you take me seriously

I'm also interested. I have a few sets of stock b series vtec valve train and I'm a big time non vtec b series lover.